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We also have plans to develop a simpler local API and a local AI helper that will be able to assist you with import/export tasks in ways you might think of
If you need a simple notepad, there are better tools out there. Anytype is more suitable if you're looking to create something like a database or knowledge base, not just a list of notes.
The next year we are working on simplifying the user experience and introducing multiplayer+communication
Yes, we are aware that there is a steep learning curve before you reach the point where you feel it's worthwhile. It's absolutely true that if you need a tool solely for note-taking, Anytype might not be the best option. We envision Anytype as a tool for knowledge management and communication (we're launching multiplayer early next year). One of our biggest internal projects is to simplify the user experience. With each new release
The license is somewhat vague. Essentially, it means you can use the software as a tool for your revenue-generating business. You have the option to use it for free if you self-host. Alternatively, you can choose a paid membership in our network, which eliminates the need for you to handle maintenance. The license specifically restricts selling the software to others without ANY coop consent.
There is significant room for improvement, and we're already steps ahead in this area with our native mobile clients that sync peer-to-peer. Try our Android app and see for yourself. I hope that within the next three years, we'll excel with native desktop applications as well.
The value proposition of Plume looks good; I've left my email.
On the p2p topic: Our protocol is p2p and it's already working well in local networks. You can experience the magic yourself: install Anytype in local mode, create a space, and fill it with some data. Open the mobile app and log in with the same phrase, and your data will be synced without any central server, immediately! Isn’t it magical? The network is needed for backups and to solve the closed laptop problem. You can always self-host a network. We believe it's important to give people the ability to be free from a service provider
On the topic of e2e encryption: All your data in Anytype is encrypted at rest; only the indexes of this data (which are created and used locally) are not encrypted. We have plans to also encrypt the indexes. Currently, we assume that the majority of users employ full disk encryption, and if your machine is compromised, it is likely that malicious software can read memory and, therefore, access the keys. Could you please elaborate on the significant vector of attack, so we can consider this case?
Regarding the license, we have covered our logic here: https://blog.anytype.io/our-open-philosophy/. We are passionate about open source, and for some projects, it’s the only viable option. That's why our AnySync protocol and data format are MIT licensed. The clients are currently under a source-available license, as we are still exploring ways to make the ANY association and contributor ecosystem sustainable. Still researching…
Thanks for your kind words towards us and congrats on your progress!
We are genuinely implementing a local-first approach. Why do you have doubts? We have a clear description of the data format, which is MIT licensed. Feel free to write and read. We hope that data adaptors will soon be available with the help of the community. You have full control over your data. Compile your version, and that's it.
It's not an account you create in a classical way using a server. It's locally generated data wallet ( we need it for encryption and sync). We talk via on-boarding that your wallet will be synced, and that your data is encrypted only with the key generated on your machine. It's for people who don't want to mess with self-hosting. If you want you can make your build from GitHub, disconnect sync, or just self-host yours. This way our promise works.
> we have described our data format
we have a GitHub! here it is https://github.com/anyproto/any-block
> BTW Don't reinvent menus. I just now realized that File->Close does not actually close the app, like in any other app. And for whatever reason, there was no information about the App still running. Kinda sus..
good point!
are there any arguments?
>There are many apps who can sync, most of them have it as an option, without a forced login and hidden sync.
We don’t have any forced login. It’s just basic keychain that generated on your machine, that only can use, and can use off-line. It’s a way do deal with encryption. Where you see a forced login?
>So I can't even access my data and must trust in the app to not screw up, and have a well working export. Which considering it takes Notion and its poor export as inspiration, is not really a good sign
we have described our data format, so your data is yours, you can write any adaptor to read/write