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prokoudine··on GIMP 2.99.18: The last development preview before 3.0
Other CAD programs haven't solved toponaming issues, they mitigated them. You can still break a model in SW and other commonly used 3D CAD programs, it's just more difficult to do.
prokoudine··on GIMP 2.99.18: The last development preview before 3.0
> I haven't double checked but I think at least one of your listed names is banned from twitter.

Even if true, what does it have to do with anything? :)

prokoudine··on GIMP 2.99.18: The last development preview before 3.0
> GIMP is critically underfunded.

Not really, no. They have sufficient funds to hire several developers for several years full-time. They are just dragging their feet to organize themselves into a non-profit and start using those funds. The latest news is that they will probably finally announce a non-profit later this year. Hopefully.

prokoudine··on Ondsel ES, an engineering suite with an open-source heart (FreeCAD)
Development is a continuous process, so you can think of Ondsel ES as 3D CAD software that is always one step ahead of the upstream project. There will likely always be things that are not part of FreeCAD yet.

There could be other things that will not make it to FreeCAD at all due to 3rd-party licensing, but it's too early to discuss this. Right now, there are other priorities.

prokoudine··on Ondsel ES, an engineering suite with an open-source heart (FreeCAD)
> so far I have not seen anything else that is unique to them.

The integrated assembly workbench isn't yet 100% merged to the main FreeCAD development branch, nor are some of the new Sketcher tools.

prokoudine··on PartCAD the first package manager for CAD models
> They don't have any screenshots on their site.

The website is WIP. You can find screenshots and videos in the blog.

https://ondsel.com/blog/assembly-wb-prerelease/

https://ondsel.com/blog/floating-input-widgets/

https://ondsel.com/blog/ondsel-made-constraining-sketches-fa...

prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
Between 2007 and 2021, I did a lot of technical support for GIMP users. So when I say that I know what people mean when they say things like "Stop inventing stuff and just copy Photoshop" or "Make the same menu items" or anything to the same effect, this isn't a bunch of hot air. I really do know what they mean, because I've had long discussions with people about all those things. A lot of those discussions involved angry people shouting at me at the top of their lungs that everybody needs free Photoshop and nobody needs GIMP, so the team should just copy Photoshop. Very few people were willing to discuss workflows and usability.
prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
The Paint Select tool in 2.99 was one of the attempts to make selecting objects simple. Unfortunately, it's unfinished and the original developer is no longer active.
prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
> GIMP is lacking in ... its selection tools

Could you please elaborate? Is this about fast selection of complex and semi-transparent objects (e.g. hair)?

> have rendering glitches in their antialiasing code that gives everything a green tint on my machines

This is a Cairo issue though. See here and further: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/8455#note_15219...

prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
The separate+ plugin isn't maintained, but GIMP 2.99/3.0 has late binding for CMYK (basically, work in RGB, export in CMYK).
prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
> Krita was launched 18 years ago.

The project started under a different name and team in 1998. But it wasn't as active as GIMP until the current project lead discovered and pretty much saved it from slow death around 2002.

prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
Both Patreon (original announcement by lead dev), GNOME's gitlab instance (where the roadmap is) and Libre Arts (linked post) are hosted in the US.

What's causing your suspicion?

prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
There you go: https://github.com/blueturtleai/gimp-stable-diffusion :)
prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
> Am I reading correctly that non-destructive editing, advanced colourspace support, and reliable hidpi display support are all unlikey to make it into 3.0…?

GIMP 2.99 already handles color spaces better than 2.10. E.g. you already have late binding for CMYK (but not early binding, that's post-3.0 stuff).

There's no telling if layer filters will make it to 3.0, I guess we'll see how much is done at feature freeze time. So I wouldn't be too fast to jump at conclusions, Even if it's missing in 3.0.0, 3.0.2 would have it.

As for HiDPI, the three way switch for canvas zooming suggested by Jehan here — https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/5206 — is something I hope they will reconsider. There should be a better way to handle it.

> Does anybody know what is expected to make it into 3.0?

Everything you see in 2.10 point releases (much was backported from 2.99) plus some extras like GTK3 port, multi-layer selection, complete rewrite of linked layers concept, Lua and JS bindings, and various other things. Because of backporting, separating 3.0-specific changes from the rest is not an easy task.

prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
Oh, I'm probably bad, but definitely not a robot :) Bleep.

I think there's some distortion added by the Noise Repellent plugin, will look into tweaking settings.

prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
I'm not a developer really, and I'm not part of the team for close to two years already :)
prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
> From what I understood about GIMPs development is that they have to purposefully make things "different" from photoshop so as to not get sued.

I don't know how these rumours get started but that is simply not true.

GIMP does some things differently and then it does some things the same (because it's just how this type of features work). And then some things were purposefully verbatim-copied from Photoshop (think Heal tool and Perspective Clone tool) because they looked like a good idea.

Personally, I find it incredibly frustrating that this type of conversation always boils down to "If you are asking for explanation why copying Photoshop is good, then you are flat-out refusing to change UI and purposefully making things different".

prokoudine··on GIMP 3.0 has a release schedule
Are we still talking about Photoshop where the combined transformation tool is absent from the toolbox and needs to be called from the main menu instead?
prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
> your tone policing argument

If you really think that providing substance to argumentation is about tone rather than useful information, then we must be coming from two different planets, and this conversation has no way forward. So I'm sorry, I'll just back out. Seems safer that way. Good luck.

prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
16/32-bit per channel support.
prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
> the project leadership refuses to consider that tue esoteric universally-loathed UI paradigms they came up with might be worse than the prevailing conventions

Do they though? I've been in and around that project for many years and one common scenario that I've seen replaying over and over (and over) again is when people request something and then understand "please elaborate why this UI solution is better" or "can't right now, too many things to work on" response as a flat-out refusal.

prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
If the startup time is your complaint, you are probably still on 2.8, that is, before fonts started lazy-loading.
prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
> But _not even their own devs_ can't explain logically why a rectangle or a circle drawing tool is a no-no.

...while making shape-drawing tools an item in the roadmap? :)

> And go forbid if you criticize that fact in front of them.

Nothing will happen.

prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
> Searching for Gaussian would't give me Gaussian blur

On the contrary, it's the first item in search results. The very first one.

prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
> But that's not because the Darktable folks did something wrong

As a survivor of "let's have three different ways to apply a TRC curve at the start of the processing pipeline" — hard disagree.

prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
> Does this man ever worked with photoshop? What is he talking about? Of course there is a menu, just like in PS.

I'm the OP and for the life of me I can't figure out what you are talking about. Seems like you are conflating GIMP and Photoshop and reading the post as if it suggested that either GIMP or Photoshop don't have a menu, which is absurd — there was no such claim.

> Another important thing is to drop the "this must look and feel different than photoshop" stance

There has never been such a stance in the first place. As far as I can recall (which is about 20 years back), the stance has always been "please explain why your proposed change is good, don't hide behind "because this is how Photoshop does it", it's lazy".

prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
"Make it work like in Photoshop because {argument about better usability}" is appreciated.

"Make it work like in Photoshop because Photoshop" is not appreciated.

It's really _that_ simple.

prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
> I didn't see the GIMP project speaking up when Glimpse was accused of being "woke".

Oh I dunno. Personally, I was vocally against the bullying of the Glimpse team.

prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
Thanks, fixed :)
prokoudine··on Is this radical redesign of GIMP possible now?
> the way I used to crop photos they moved/broke

Out of curiosity, what's that? Are you by any chance referring to the option that allows not removing cropped pixels? Well, it's an option. You can disable it.

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