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I think mostly the sluggishness comes from some input delay in the browser. When you open a Collabora Calc document and select any random cell, it just takes a couple of hundred miliseconds till the cell is actually selected. I can reproduce this with brand new instances, no matter how beefy the server is.
E.g. here are some specific things and examples of things you'll have to deal with, in no specific order. These are just some things I've had to deal with recently.
- You'll have to educate people in your group that there are at least 3 different ways to share files among each other and that they can all coexist in parallel (Individual Shares vs. Group Shares vs. Group folders vs. Circles/Teams) (I did a german blog post on this: https://bitbetter.de/blog/nextcloud-freigabe-chaos/)
- Handling of file/folder names with special characters is a mess e.g. if you have Windows and Linux clients there will most certainly be conflicts. (Luckily this has been fixed recently by the `forbidden_filename_characters` config option – which is not enforced yet via the Web UI) see https://github.com/nextcloud/ios/issues/2802
- Creating Nextcloud users with spaces in their names, will break CalDAV on iOS Devices (https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/15641)
- Nextcloud (aka Collabora) Office is very slow if you want to actually work collaboratively with it (no matter the power of your Collabora server) – unfortunately it's no match for Google Docs or Office 365
Don't get me wrong: It's still a fantastic Open Source project with tons of talented people and it's a beacon of hope in the GAFA world. Everyone should try it out (and help it evolve) so it can be better than the commercial alternatives. But going into this and expecting to get the same kind of product quality like Google Drive/One Drive/Dropbox will lead to disappointment.
Element: The most popular client (like Thunderbird)
Element X: Rewrite of Element based on Rust and native UI components
Synapse: Most popular Matrix server (like Dovecot)
Element Call: Video/Audio conferencing (like Jitsi)
Element Server Suite (ESS): Paid SaaS solution that wraps all of the mentioned components into a simple turnkey solution.
I don't know. I guess it depends on what you compare it to. I've used Bitwarden in some pretty non-technical surroundings and it worked fine. Compared to a "single file" PW manager (like KeePass), I'd say it's still pretty easy to use within a team or group of "non-technical" users.
Granted, not as good as 1PW, but still a lot better than KeePass et al.
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I applaud the author for keeping a minimal footprint with vanilla JS and CSS. But this is very hard to maintain and understand for outsiders and makes Frontend tasks very tedious. Would love to help and contribute some stuff, but the stack is just not for me.
Still hope this succeeds. The idea is fantastic.
As much as I hat to say it, but feature wise it's not very close to being a Microsoft 365 alternative.
Roundcube is on a whole other level in terms of stability and robustness compared to Nextcloud.
I'm also glad that the current Nextcloud client will be replaced, because it's not very good right now.