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peak_body_yo··on DC police used sonic cannon to direct crowd flow during Women's March
Isn't mental instability positively correlated with antisocial, disruptive behavior? I'd imagine that they want well behaved protesters.
peak_body_yo··on As crime dries up, Japan’s police hunt for things to do
The segregation happens on more than just class lines. People segregate based on culture and values.

Despite there being many poor, segregated communities in the USA, crime is perpetrated by and happens in only a few select communities. In fact, many poor communities thrive because of segregation. In an integrated society, members of the poor communities would be marginalized due to language and cultural barriers because there would not be a support network of people from similar cultural backgrounds. (although the communities where crime is commonplace would benefit from integration by spreading the crime around to different communities instead of keeping it within the community)

Japanese culture and values across all groups are much more homogenous and conducive to a civilized society. People look down upon crimes and value hard work and education.

On the other hand, there are communities in the USA who have values that are not conducive to civilized society and that glorify crime and hedonism and look down on the educated. Coincidentally, these communities also disproportionately contain the perpetrators of crimes.

On the surface level, it appears that the value system of the disruptive groups are the problem because many segregated, poor groups can live in civilized peace. Segregation itself is not a problem.

Everything points to the malfunctioning culture and value system of specific groups in the USA. Integration may help in so much as it dilutes the toxicity of the culture and value system of these groups.

peak_body_yo··on Microsoft Intern’s Rape Claim Highlights Struggle to Combat Sex Discrimination
Apparently not in tech though. All the recent sexual harassment accusers are employed
peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
It doesn't. He just wanted to argue about minimum wage lol
peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
I think that there is a decent case that upper class men do enjoy gender based privileges. But then people use that as evidence that all males are privileged and it's just not true. I mean it would be great if there was a chance that I could become a CEO or an exec, but 99.99% of people won't so it doesn't matter to most males if all execs and CEOs are male.

On the disparate power dynamic, I doubt the males with power care about the wellbeing of the other 99.99% of males. They will look out for the interests of super high class males which may not overlap with the interests of lower class males.

I think that non high class females benefit much more than non high class males from the power of super high class males. The super high class males will spend time around females and make transfer payments in the services industry. Sugar babes, prostitutes, strippers, webcaming, regular waitresses, etc. They are more likely to enjoy the wealth of high power males and have a much easier time forming a relationship (romantic or platonic) with a super high class male.

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
> The kicker? Wealth killed opportunities for women.

Yeah because lower class women do much better compared to lower class men. The study is flawed. It used male hobbies for both males and females. Rich females don't generally sail. I think their stereotypical activity would be humanitarian efforts.

And if it wasn't flawed, what conclusions do you draw from the study? Lower class women did 5 times better than lower class men. The lower class is many times larger than the upper class, so only a tiny percent of men enjoy the the upper class privilege while most men are doing terribly.

Looking at the big picture by aggregating the lower and upper class, women do better than men.

> http://gender.stanford.edu/news/2014/why-does-john-get-stem-....

I'll give this some legitimacy but it's one study and not completely convincing. It can't be generalized outside of science research positions.

One bias that I'm concerned about is that most gendered social experiments are hoping to find bias against females. It's a big echo chamber as the manifesto guy would say.

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
No, the leftist position would be writing a well thought out and mild toned argument that the company has pro white male bias in interviewing (which implies that the hiring bar is lowered for white males and that some white males don't belong in the company) and that the company should create initiatives to end this bias.
peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
> There is systemic discrimination in favour of white men in software engineering

Asian/Indian males and females who can barely speak english says otherwise. You can't just drop this controversial statement without any proof

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
Does there even need to be a reason why there is a gender/race disparity in tech? This is not a blip in the radar. It is commonplace for careers to have gender/race disparities. There are more careers with significant gender/race disparitities than careers without them.
peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
The majority(>60%) of engineering in big tech companies who are most affected by these diversity initiatives are either foreign born or have parents who are foreign born.
peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
> Diversity programs are not about lowering the bar, they are about outreach

What if all you are achieving is rearranging the dirt (ignore the negative connotations to dirt)?

Skilled URM engineers who meet the Google hiring bar will find a place to work regardless of outreach efforts. The URM outreach efforts will just shift the talented URMs from other companies to its company.

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
> The whole reason diversity practices exist is because "some classes of people" are already being harmed. Without "diversity practices", we already have practices that emphasize and discriminate sex and race, except they happen to be the status quo.

Citation needed and it needs to be relevant in a liberal tech company environment.

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
> Because gender discrimination is rife

Please stop making these unqualified statements on very touchy subjects

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
Maybe I'm reading too much into your post but I sense some anger or indignance. If that's true it is misplaced. Understand that if he phrased it any other way, he would have been further crucified.

Phrasing it more honestly and straightforward would be heresy in a corporate environment.

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
> due to systemic discrimination in hiring.

It's ridiculous how many times I see this dropped out of nowhere in this thread without any sources or proof.

This is a very contentious statement on a two sided issue.

It is similar to proclaiming that minimum wage increases will always lower job opportunities without any proof.

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
> It's (in almost all cases), very small variations of tangential achievements, most of which can be outweighed with a minority group bringing a different group of life experiences to the table.

Actually, diversity initiatives can decrease cultural diversity in tech. Many diversity initiatives leave immigrants behind and mainly benefit Americans.

It can be said that foreigners are considered more "culturally diverse" than Americans in USA based workplaces. Diversity programs might increase gender and racial diversity, but also decrease foreign representation as a result and make a company less culturally diverse.

peak_body_yo··on Why Women Leave Engineering (2011) [pdf]
Perception vs. reality

The general perception is that programming is a socially isolating, boring, monotonous job where you stare at a screen all day.

People making career choices don't know about the lax environment.

So tech completely aligns with what he/she wrote.

edit: and your sarcasm is hostile

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
It would be great if you could point to documents proving all your assumptions on bias. People have been so vehement about their beliefs. But there has never been a succint summarization of the proof. If it's so self evident, someone with decent writing skills would have whipped up a document like the manifesto for the general arguments with proof of bias right?

The thing is, if you don't believe those assumptions, you will view the the unconscious bias and diversity programs as discriminatory. And many people don't believe those assumptions. They see companies discriminating against them and they don't like it.

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
> A company and employees really shouldn't get political if at all possible, to prevent a divided customer base.

The company and its employees have very publicly political. This is the trend for most of the big tech companies. I wish they were much less political and the companies chose more moderate viewpoints.

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
Do a large amount of moderate leftists actually think a PhD in Women studies is "legit"? Genuine question
peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
The devil's advocate says that there are many opinions that you would disagree should be fireable.
peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
> The problem with a), is that often women aren't allowed to compete on merit, or they have to perform twice as hard, twice as often as a male colleague in order to prove it "wasn't some fluke."

I've seen these arguments rehashed over and over by the very same people who overly critcized the manifesto.

Yet I have never seen any argument or document written as well as the manifesto supporting these arguments.

peak_body_yo··on Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo
> increased the false positive rate for underrepresented groups I would object to such a statement

Does your recruitment process have a 0% false positive rate? If not, giving more opportunities will yield more false positives unless it's proven that the extra opportunities have a 0% false positive rate.

peak_body_yo··on LastPass RCE vulnerability fixed
> Argon2 KDF and ChaCha20 as a cipher

Are these a huge improvement from what was offered previously?

peak_body_yo··on LastPass RCE vulnerability fixed
Is this any better than KeePassX?