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It's still there but not the same.
Also I want to give a bit more info about why rec.music.phish was special. Phish, like the Grateful Dead, allow people to record and distribute concert recordings as long as they didn't profit from it. So people would offer free "blanks and postage" deals to other people on rec.music.phish who would mail cassette tapes with return envelopes and get recordings of live concerts back in the mail a month later. That whole process is completely irrelevant now but it was a unifying fan experience that had real meaning to everyone involved. Going on a bittorrent site (bt.etree.org) doesn't compare in the development of meaningful relationships with total strangers even though it is far more efficient.
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Installing software on a VPS is close enough to "putting a little skin in the game" and having any sort of social marketing strategy of your own takes real effort even if someone is not getting paid for doing it. The only compelling reasons for using meetup seem to be the marketing association to the meetup name and that there isn't any other comparable software that is primarily focused on face to face meetings.
It seems to me like meetup has its hands full with the magnitude of hosting so many organizations and having a smaller install base from an open source project would eliminate the scaling complexity and allow an open source project to not only compete as a cheaper alternative, but also innovate in ways meetup can't. There are so many features that I don't understand why meetup hasn't built into their site, especially since they are making money from every organization that is hosted on their site.
There are so many other methods of advertizing outside of Meetup that I don't think that using Meetup is the greatest marketing tool ever. If I were trying to organize a group of people, I don't know that I would especially want to target other people who already use meetup for other meetings. I would rather recruit on the basis of whatever the focus of the organization is. There is a lot of scarcity of meetups outside of major cities too. It is sort of like Craigslist in that regard. I think it would be especially compelling to launch a site around a given community and use that brand to promote meetings, sort of like how people use ravelry to communicate with fellow knitters.
From a customer service standpoint, I don't plan to ever let people know I am doing this because they will try to call me out on being evil about it.
It would be more helpful if there was a lingering effect to agreeing with someone instead of just giving someone a karma point increment. Lets say that I upvoted zzyzx's comment, and based on that upvote, I am able to see a thumbs up on other comments that zzyzx upvoted, indicating that people who I agree with, agreed with that comment.
There is a sort of half intent by the developer. Yes, the developer had intended to delete the repository that was in his home directory, but he had no idea that it was actually a link to the master repository.
Having intent to destroy something on purpose is a different matter though, and I'm not sure that there is a good argument for it.
I've also run into a fundamentally flawed hiring scheme at every company that uses Ruby on Rails in which I am flat out not considered if I do not have experience working on an "agile" team doing every day pair programming. There are a lot of job descriptions that back this issue up.
I learned Ruby on Rails on my own and have successfully developed and deployed two significant applications during my spare time using Ruby on Rails in the last 3 years. The applications I've written are not open source and they are not public access sites, and until I do get something written within the public facing / open source realm, I am convinced that I probably won't ever get considered for a full time rails job.
I've mostly just about given up on ever expecting to get hired by a company that uses Ruby on Rails. It is all total bullshit in my opinion. I will continue to use Ruby on Rails on my own and ignore Pair Programming because I see Pair Programming as a form of micromanagement and not an opportunity for programming productivity.
I have plenty of experience working with other software developers on the same piece of code, in front of the same terminal window, for two or three hours at a time - always initiated by myself or the other developer, not prescribed by management. The fact that I don't do it every day is irrelevant in my opinion.