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maybe every PR should be run through 2 other llms so they just remove the ads of competitors (or i guess you'll end up with all 3) /s

ask ai for advice, ask it to steelman an argument, ask to replay what your situation from the other perspective (if it's involving people), push it hard to agree with you and pander to you, then push it to disagree with you, etc.

once you have all the "bounds" just make your own decision. i find this helps a lot, basically like a rubber duck heh.

i feel like people should be focusing on the damaging things that aren't just "ai" (like what he hell does that even mean, it's too broad?).

dark app patterns, gambling, etc. like seriously, i know we all want to hate on llms or whatever stealing our jobs or making us stupider but has this been any different from the past in that regard?

whether it be radio, tv, computer, internet, video games, etc. all of these claimed to be doing something "to the children" but i agree with another comment said kids will figure out a way to learn and utilize the tools given to them.

did me "offloading" my thinking to google or some computer instead of cracking open some library book or doing calculations by hand damage my thinking at the time? no... because a sufficiently motivated person will learn regardless, figure out why things work the way they do, and rather it's better access to said information that helps.

we should be fixing the motivation problem rather than the tools which we've been trying to do for decades. teach people the framework for solving problems and critical thinking. kids nowadays have way more things demanding their attention and it's been on a decline far before this AI wave (cough social media). we literally sound like old farts lol.

we figure out the hard way.

it's like when bootcamps were all the rage promising an easy career path, the floor has been raised now, companies will pay a premium for competent devs eventually when they figure it out and it will be an attractive option once again as a career path, but for now it's a shit show.

if 90% of your class turns off their brains when learning with AI then focus on the 10% who understand that you need to crawl first before attempting anything else.

in enterprise none of this tends to hold true at all. you need to balance the optics of what people think they need vs what they actually need.

a lot of times people with "we MUST have features XYZ to buy" and then when they actually get set up you see they use only 50% or less of the features. was it useless to build them? they wouldn't even consider you in the first place if you didn't tick the boxes for some higher up decision maker.

probably applies more to people who are already bought in. you have that "luxury" at that point, buy in, cost to switch, etc.

"i told everyone that our boss shouldn't punish our colleague for X while i somehow made a deal with our boss for basically X". how did this get by without someone thinking about how absolutely stupid the optics look.

i guess we are in the times where you can literally just say whatever you want and it just becomes truth, just give it time.

a lot of low level ops stuff is going to be eaten up imo. half the bullshit you have to deal with is integrating data across every platform you are using or other supposed products to help you integrate the integrators lol. i guess if you're a huge company with 1000s of people this is an inherent problem anyway, one you can spend millions of dollars on.

it's not just "replace snowflake", there are a lot of times i wish i could build a very focused thing to accelerate some of our internal workflows and the nocode solutions either were too simplistic that you ended up spending just as much time trying to wrangle some generic solution to your own use case. OR it was not worth throwing significant engineering resources behind internal ops stuff. now that barrier is dropping fast and it's feasible for us.

whoever can create the framework/tooling for people build their own systems will win this, but i don't think it's something that can be "productized" like a saas.

his line (admittedly he acknowledges) is just purely arbitrary and thus basically boils down to his own comfort and opinion. i guess we are all entitled to that, so maybe nothing to really take away from all this. has he read the whole react codebase line by line to understand what works and doesn't? just handwaves it away as some unneeded "abstraction".

not sure why i find a lot of these types of comments lately, just a sign of the times i guess? criticism sure, but to reduce all of his work as if it were a paragraph prompt or something, that's something else.

i hate when the people start bringing up the "luck" factor as if you are the only smart one here to realize that it also plays a huge factor?

you want to make lots of money? change your mindset, stop making excuses and roll the dice. it won't guarantee success, but i also guarantee nobody who did so would ever lament how unfair it was that they worked so hard and someone else succeeded through "luck" so they might as well not try.

maybe we just change, honestly. i think when i were younger there was nothing to lose, time felt unlimited, no "career" to gamble with, no billion dollar idea, just learning and tinkering and playing with whatever was out there because it was cool and interesting to me. in some respects i miss that.

not sure how that relates to llms but it does become an unblocker to regain some of that "magic", but also i know to deep dive requires an investment i cannot shortcut.

the new generation of devs are already playing with things few dinosaurs will get to experience fully, having sunk decades into the systems built and afraid to let it go. some of that is good (to lean on experience) and some of it holding us back.

imo they don't get a chance to recover. i don't think you can compare a whole day of back breaking work where you have to push thru any minor issues vs like a 1-2 hr workout session every day at your discretion.

hmm, maybe you are not as good at using llms as you think then? lol jk.

i mean if you have imposter syndrome then this feeling will always be prevalent. how do you know what you are good at or not? i might be competent enough to have progressed this far in my career as in "results", but comparison to people i consider "good" devs always puts in that doubt.

i guess it strikes a chord when someone in the same breath of claiming to be open minded makes a backhand comment where people who like llms might just must be a shitty programmer or whatever. i get the point, but that line doesn't quite land the way you think it does.

"LLM evangelists - are you willing to admit that you just might not be that good at programming computers? Maybe you once were. Maybe you never were."

lol. is this supposed to be like some sort of "gotcha"! yes? like maybe i am a really shitty programmer and always just wanted to hack things together. what it has allowed me to do is prevent burnout to some extent, outsource the "boring" parts and getting back to building things i like.

also getting tired of these extreme takes but whatever, it's #1 so mission accomplished. llms are neither this or that. just another tool in the toolbox, one that has been frustrating in some contexts and a godsend in others and part of that process is figuring out where it excels and doesn't.

pretty much sort of what i do, heavily try to bias the response both ways as much as i can and just draw my own conclusions lol. some subjects yield worse results though.

well you don't have to "think" anything lol, if you've never tried it yourself that's step one. step two is to not assume everyone out there is a shill or lying because that's awful convenient. also its not black or white.

developers can exist in a small team, solo, large enterprise all with their mandates and cultures so just saying LLMs increase/decrease is reductive.

have a feeling i'm being trolled tho.

you just need to hop into any AI reltaed thread (even this one) and it's pretty clear no one is revising anything, skepticism is there lol.

having been out of work before and going on benefits the cliffs are hilariously badly calculated, not even sure how they are determined. for someone who knows their potentially salary far outweighs the reduced subsidies it can be a needed life boat. for people at the cutoff it incentivises you to stay under it.

maybe capital gains for politicians should be increased to like 80% and redirected entirely to public service funds lol. i'm just throwing random crap out there but haven't thought it thru at all for 2.

this is honestly what i think is going to happen as everyone is still figuring this out and why for large companies i think they are walking into a giant ass trap and the execs can't or don't care to see it as long as it boosts the stock.

most people (read: MOST) working at X corp aren't going to be using AI to accelerate their work, they are going to "phone it in" like you said or buy themselves more time to do other stuff. i think with the onslaught of vibe and slop most people don't have a vested interest to go above and beyond to ensure quality as long as it works, even experienced devs. that's honestly probably what i'd be tempted to do.

where we see the most exponential gains will be people who are paid enough to care, smaller teams that have a direct vested interest in long term success (founding teams, etc.) or people paid to just clean up a mess.

hiring and the landscape will be super interesting to see in the next year or so. probably team structure will change drastically as well.

the speech gets cut off. i asked it to click on a specific section and it said it couldn't show me as it wasn't a live demo. then kept trying to ask questions i didn't want to answer yet.

finally, i kept asking it to show me whatever it needs to show me to get to the point and it was like "have a nice day" and ended the call LOL.

that said, it's impressive what is there.

another subjective data point, took waymo multiple times in SF and also lyft when waymo was taking too long. honestly, waymo was better in every single way and it wasn't even close. the only comparison was "maybe" taking a black XL from the airport.

in no particular order, my problems w/ lyft:

1) driver trying to talk to you when you just want some quiet time

2) unclean/smelly car, have no idea if it's some econobox or actually decent

3) sometimes questionable driving, talking on the phone or talking to you or watching some youtube video or using their phone trying to grab the next fare

waymo i just get in, it takes me where i need to go and i get out, no fuss. maybe i'll eat my words if i get into some catastrophic situation, but honestly i'll take that over the "feeling" i get when i step into current ride shares.

people don't drink starbucks because it's the best coffee, they do it because it's consistent for the most part and that's what i want. i don't want to roll the damn dice everytime i call for a car.

lol, after wework you'd be an idiot to think it was nothing more than shilling their "winner" to potentially dump on the public. but i guess as long as you can make money on the way up.

nice, so instead of just searching for the specific spf i want and moving the mouse myself/checking out quickly i can instead write a bunch of words that make my commands even more vague lol.

reminds me of when echo would let you order stuff "instantly" and how shitty that experience was outside of a narrow focus. except worse since you have to type it vs. just talking.

we learned our lessons from 2008 and 2020. my random thoughts

1) money has nowhere else go for now

2) great wealth transfer = really doesn't matter as long as the super rich can keep inflating their wealth faster than us peons. if you are above that curve just stay ahead of it at all costs.

3) prolonged pain can be extended indefinitely for most people by keeping them perpetual renters / extending loan terms.

4) all else fails print more money and i guess when it all does collapse doesn't matter, retreat to X country or bunker (lol)

someone mind actually giving a detailed history of the timeline outside of the two main parties? this has those inklings of wordpress drama where not a lot of people are not invested enough and that obviously works to an advantage of sorts.

after the kakao fire incident and now this i struggle to understand how they got so advanced in other areas. this is like amateur hour level shit.

i think it's a give and take here, like the 5th time i injured myself working out i conceded that perhaps i am aging and can't go as hard lol. i suppose it's a slippery slope down now where you are now over time adjusting the workouts to be less and less intensive, but it's not for lack of trying.

modern society has made it acceptable perhaps and some of these in their 60s feel it's their last chance to live life on their own terms.

reddit largely went the same way as FB for me and it's continuing full steam, but for now i can at least stick to topics i want to lurk about. never saw the need for twitter or tiktok (former i can't express myself adequately and the entire place felt like hot takes. tiktok i suppose is like the next level IG but i'm happy being the older guy getting the "trickle down" content to ig heh).

everything is so polarized and vitriolic now to gain views. i used to love online discussion and debate. i find it a fruitless endeavor the majority of the time now. mainly just to give my 2 cents as some kind of self-carthasis lol. HN is probably the only place i bother to expend actual energy writing a comment.

unrelated, but i logged in the other day to fb after months away (after the school and charlie kirk shooting b/c i was curious). huge mistake, every other feed item was something political either from a friend or some random page. the experience was decidedly worse than the last time i logged in. i had not been engaging in months and i could instantly feel the pull of wanting to respond or react to something inflammatory. promptly deleted the app again.

SM in its current form is truly a cancer on society. i can't say IG is that much better, but at least i can sort of curate what i want to see and i still see photos from friends and such and just random ads. i know it's just pointless scrolling for a few mins. FB truly is one of those pull you into the echo chamber to tell and show you how to think and it only took a few minutes. i don't even know what years of that does to you.

anecdotally, most people my age already left for other pastures. the ones left there are largely those who joined up to connect back when FB was actually useful and are now around for the ragebait.