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Note that the response is Altman's, and he seems to support it.
As additional context, Paul Graham has said a number of times that Altman is one of the most power-hungry and successful people he know (as praise). Paul Graham, who's met hundreds if not thousands of experienced leaders in tech, says this.
Altman and Brockman have yet to share their side of the story.
Edit: Also, yes, it's hard to sweep things under the rug. We don't know the timeline of events, and we're seeing an instance where Altman failed to hide something.
It's unclear what the company papers show. The Matt Levine article [1] goes into pretty good detail about the case.
[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-07-11/matt-l...
* The Bay Area is a place where you can make $100k a year and be classified as low-income [1].
* Tech employees tend to live low-key lifestyles that don't really show how much they're making. I know people who make $500k and still live with roommates.
* Income inequality and progressive politics combine to make people less reluctant to talk about their TC packages, unless you're also at a similar socio-economic level.
[1] https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/under-100k-low-income-s...
Especially if you're American. Gallup [1] reports:
> The median annual household income worldwide is $9,733, and the median per-capita household income is $2,920
Even among developed nations, Americans get paid more.
[1] https://news.gallup.com/poll/166211/worldwide-median-househo...
While Apple did have a much smaller increase in headcount over the last few years, I wouldn't use Apple as an example while we're still in the midst of everything. In December, people were touting Google as an example of one of the layoff-proof companies. I didn't trust that logic, and I don't trust the logic that Apple is somehow immune when they're so closely tied into the tech industry. For example, I'm theorizing that a non-trivial part of their profits comes from supporting the developer ecosystem (who else buys max-spec Macs at scale?). Regardless of the underlying reason, mass layoffs and tightened budgets are going to dry up B2B profit streams.
Here's an example I just pulled up that's the second thread on my feed: https://twitter.com/LordCarsonEsq/status/1615134592222257155
There are six replies here. If you refresh enough, you can see a different subset of two replies, so that's probably not a spam-filter.
As to the aesthetics, I'm sure people thought the same of all types of bicycles. Penny-farthings used to be the cultural norm, and people still ride less-common forms like small-wheel and recumbent bicycles.
Also, my point in using Apple as a reference was that they do have a crunch culture (occasional 80-hour workweeks), and those cafeterias aren't open all day (unlike the Twitter ones).
All of this is to say that there are three likely scenarios:
1. For whatever reason (e.g. staffing, technical problems, lack of training), PG's account didn't get treated with the scrutiny it deserved.
2. A report on PG's account went up the chain, landed in front of a trained moderation team, and they banned him against Musk's wishes (presumably unintentionally).
3. Musk desired his ban.
If it was a random tech CEO, I think Scenario 2 would be most likely. Given the recent technical issues with Twitter, their employee turnover, and Musk's recent actions towards "former allies" that spoke out against him, I think it's actually a toss-up.
[1] https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/1601018810495995904
[1] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-thai-...
Edit: Maybe the suspension will break PG's fanboy-ism, and he'll emerge humbler and wiser.
One of the benefits of this is that you don't have to be competent enough to sustain two jobs. There are people who do this and just swap their jobs every year or less. Another side benefit of that is that people have lower expectations for the new hire, and if you're perpetually a new hire...
The market can never overvalue or undervalue? Hmm...
Dislikes over likes does sound interesting though.