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notspanishflu··on Spanish police raid .Cat domain name registry offices
There's a legal way to change the Spanish Constitution.

What people can't do is play outside the Law in a Democracy.

notspanishflu··on Spanish police raid .Cat domain name registry offices
This is completely false. The Spanish Constitution was an agreement between every party, including the Communist Party (PCE).

And Spanish people supported the Constitution with their vote on a large scale.

notspanishflu··on Spanish police raid .Cat domain name registry offices
It's hard to try to explain the true here when secessionists are brigading but you aren't serious, really.

Since 1977, Catalans had participated in 35 free elections, and in 3 referendums. The Catalans have their own government, and there are politicians born in Catalonia successfully in the Spanish Parliament, and in the European Parliament.

Where you don't see freedom?

If someone wants to change the Spanish Constitution, there's a legal way to do it.

notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
Yeah, try to get a divorce without respecting the Law.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
You have called me troll in another comment but when someone ask for reputable sources your answer is 'google it'.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
Catalonia has never been a nation.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
"Catalonia had been a nation since the 10th century."

Again, if you believe that fantasy is true, is impossible to open your eyes to reality.

Please, point to a reputable source.

notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
Those newspaper are way more partial than the secessionist newspapers, because they're surviving thanks to the public money the government of Catalonia, in nationalistic hands, gives them.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
After Franco death, the first party to win a free election, and by majority, was a center party (UCD).

Every major party wanted indivisibility of Spain, including the PCE or Communist Party of Spain.

So please don't try to sell the territorial indivisibility as a right or center-right thing.

notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
See? That's the problem. If you truly believe this lie "Catalonia had been a nation since before Spain" then you've decided to close your eyes to History, and there's nothing I can say to change your mind.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
But you're the only one asking knowing perfectly well the answer.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
It's explicitly forbidden in the (illegal) new law the Parliament of Catalonia is trying to impose.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
What an statement, but that not means it's true.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
Please, don't try to rewrite History.

The Spanish Constitution is based in a very broad agreement, from Communists to the Far-Right Wing.

Then that agreement (the Constitution) was voted by all the Spanish People and received an immense support.

See the table here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_constitutional_referen...

notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
It is worse the tension between Catalans.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
"The elephant in the room is that the main parties in the Spanish goverment are using this independence process as a smokescreen to hide all their wrongdoings."

That's some assumption, considering the main party promoting the secession had their party HQ confiscated for their corruption.

"Also there is a complete blockage to alter the constitution"

No, there isn't. There is a perfect legal form to do it.

"Catalonia is one of the most solidary regions (giving more to the state than we receive)."

No, it WAS. Now the rest of Spain is supporting Catalonia using the FLA ("Fondo de Liquidez Autonómica" or "Autonomous Liquidity Fund").

"I'm sick of it all."

More sick are the majority of Catalans who don't want the secession.

notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
If you can read Spanish, those news are in all newspapers.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
The secessionists tried another fake referendum in November, 9th, 2014.

Now it's even more illegal.

Edit: to the people downvoting this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_self-determination_ref...

notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
Is not only that. The article 1.2 of the Spanish Constitution clearly states: "The national sovereignty resides in the Spanish people, from whom all the powers of the state emanate."

All Spanish people have the right to decide about all the things in Spain, not just a bunch of people.

notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
Then explain me why the same arguments to separate Catalonia from Spain can't be applied to separate Barcelona from Catalonia.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
Done, thank you for the advice.
notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
(I repeat my comment here thanks to tertius advice).

The government of Catalonia can hold a referendum following the Law. The problem here is that the government of Catalonia is not following even their own regional laws approved by them, not to mention the Spanish Constitution.

The secessionists have even forbidden the opposition to participate in the debates in the Parliament of Catalonia.

Remember also that Catalonia has never been a nation.

notspanishflu··on Spanish police doing an intervention in Fundació puntCAT office
The government of Catalonia can hold a referendum following the Law. The problem here is that the government of Catalonia is not following even their own regional laws approved by them, not to mention the Spanish Constitution.

The secessionists have even forbidden the opposition to participate in the debates in the Parliament of Catalonia.

Edit to add: it is not the same a country willing to participate in an union and then deciding to leave it, than a movement in a nation (Spain) where some people in there decide they want to transform a part of Spain in an independent nation.

Remember also that Catalonia has never been a nation.

notspanishflu··on DuckDuckGo vs Google
When I don't like the DDG results, I use the '!s' bang instead of '!g'.

That means more privacy because uses startpage.com

notspanishflu··on DuckDuckGo vs Google
It's better to use the '!s' bang. Is like using '!g' but with more privacy because uses startpage.com
notspanishflu··on A Copyright Vote That Could Change the EU’s Internet
More info:

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/oeil/popups/ficheprocedure.do?...

notspanishflu··on Delete Facebook Account
It really grinds my gears when an honest question is downvoted here in HN of all places.
notspanishflu··on The Librem 5: A Matrix-Native FLOSS Smartphone
This is that link without the reference https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NPX09QY/
notspanishflu··on Facebook – You are the Product
Use Telegram groups.

https://telegram.org/faq#q-what-makes-telegram-groups-cool

notspanishflu··on OpenMoko: 10 Years After
Your best bet is to keep an eye on what Halium Project[+] choose as its reference phones.

[+] https://halium.org/

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