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Imagine having a bunch of Claude agents doing time sensitive work and this happens and now a single human needs to pick up several 8k PRs authored by bots that can't talk to you now. Not sure how effective it would be to switch models using OpenRouter and the like given that, as the Earendil guys said, there is a lot of session detail that the provider doesn't share. The uptime is really going to cap their market penetration imo.

It's pointless as the problem isn't technical. It's a human problem as it requires human supervision. A cage isn't good if no human is actually checking it.

What is PMM?

To be honest, that's the fault of the websites themselves. Google is just an amplifier of a world web wide problem.

> "I am one person and I deal with code to get my product my built." From that POV, has it ever been better, assuming you can rise to the top of an ever more crowded market?

Building a product is easier now, same way making a photograph is easier now. Making a reliable and high income living out of it though, it looks increasingly uncertain.

In a world with abundant music and photography, just saying that you made your music using Reason/ProTools or you made your photograph with a Leica isn't enough. I believe the same will happen with software. Sales, product design, customer service and operational aspects like uptime will matter more than the software itself. Ironically, this is the kind of stuff the HN type highly dislikes.

>If you are product-driven, life is pretty good, and maybe has never been better

It has certainly been better for junior devs, mid devs, anyone looking for zirp era salary growth and supply demand ratios. For a senior code-adverse coaster looking forward to see his static salary get eaten by inflation, life has indeed never been better.

Anyone who has learned a language knows this anecdotally. The linguistic structures need to be marshalled by active cognition (editing and writing). Merely reading and watching is not enough.

So Searle was right.

Yes, but part of the reason ZuckOff is trending now is because it is also popular outside tech circles.

> Dishwasher rinse aid in beverages happened yesterday but I’ve also had makeup remover in condiments

I am sorry but could you explain the meaning of this sentence?

Agent technology labs are likely exempted of this due to the significance ascribed to their work.

Yeah, you have to have some level of involvement. It's crazy that we are actually talking of 100% dev involvement to literally 0% involvement.

It seems to me that chances of misalignment are a function of accumulated usage time. Eventually, it will happen.

> Yes I still vibe unit test and integration test,

False sense of security. What's stopping the agents from doing an elaborate form of "Assert.IsTrue(true)" in some/most/all of the tests since you are vibing it and not reviewing it?

Look at the COBOL devs. They are been called in their retirement years. You don't want that to be you. Life is short

Because safety isn't a priority at OpenAI and they had (have?) been falling behind Anthropic in the LLM race? Big fans of the saying: move fast and...

Arguably, if the website does not have a positive value and only negative, the logical thing is to shut it down and keep the Google Business profile imo. I assume she has been paying for the domain name all this years too or is it a subdomain?

> It takes four years of education before becoming a taxi driver in London

That doesn't apply to private hire vehicle drivers afaik.

> Food should be prepared with love

You forgot about the sentient non-veg elements that also get added to it. Is that done with love too?

> I can't tell the difference so what does it matter?

Eternal September. Just like the usenet groups

> it's advancing fast

Actually, it (LLM models) has been advancing slower for a while. This is pretty much in the mainstream. And the current approach is facing all sorts of obstacles that are not exclusively technological. The compute needs are no longer sustainable. Financially, big labs are drowning in debt and backlash against data centres has grown so much that it has become an electoral topic in at least one major country.

> This is a very VC focused lens

Just like mostly everything he writes about.

> But yes, there is an interesting change in the past decade, where everything new must be over-hyped.

Yep, the good old "Our tech is making the world a better place" has gotten old and a new approach was needed. If you are not making standard databases obsolete with a blockchain or MapReduce or gaining business enlightenment from Big Data, no one wants to fund your startup. Civilisation level change is the new upper bound.

Difference is you are not a trillion dollar plus technology hyped as a harbinger of civilisational change.

> I'm of the opinion that we still have some discoveries on the mathematical side of the fence to go that will improve models further.

That's assuming the infrastructure needed to develop models stays available financially and supply wise. A lot of the services used to train and develop models are supplied and funded by people who are looking for multiple returns of investment. If/when OpenAI and Anthropic valuations fall and they inevitably get acquired, will Meta/Alphabet/Microsoft still want to spend lots of money for unclear returns in the short-term? Nvidia and co are on a one way train service to hype town. I don't think they will be happy to get on a coach to hype town Temu version. The shareholders likely won't.

Also, the backlash against LLMs is growing rapidly. AI content, data centres, etc is quickly gaining negative connotations outside of visual and music artists circles. While existing models are going nowhere, developing more advanced models is very quickly getting unpopular. LLMs Data centres increasing people's bills, Anthropic destroying old books, chat bots giving unethical advice to vulnerable people, etc. It won't be long before LLM infrastructure becoming an electoral issue.

Will a small research oriented community be big enough justify maintaining the apparatus needed to produce infra tech at a profitable level post OpenAI?

Not exciting for anyone directly or indirectly invested in a frontier lab or its partners. And that is a lot of people, including you.

Isn't video generation expensive? Are you letting/making users generate series of videos without any plan? I think content depth and breadth would be good to check pre-generation at a minimum.

And that's fine. Not everyone has someone to vouch for.

> I don't want to be constantly worried about my own reputation.

That is why you must think carefully who you vouch for. Like in a house party. If you bring someone who does not act well, it reflects bad on you.

Ultimately, a shrinking contributor pool is the inevitable consequence of code generation being virtually free.

Basically, any copyrighted material should do. This only covers not ablated LLMs though. Ultimately, a web of trust where someone whose humanity and integrity you trust AT THE COST OF YOUR OWN INTEGRITY vouches for an individual is likely going to be the most reliable way. New open source contributors will require proof of humanity.

On top of this, you would want an expirable proof of humanity to reduce account takeover as a security vector and publicly sharing failed proof attempts would quickly deter actors from targeting projects en masse.