nandhinianand

I think this is definitely true for novel writing and stuff like that based on my experiments with AI so far.. I'm still on the fence about coding/building s/w based on it, but that may just be about the unlearning and re-learning i'm yet to do/try out.

I won't attempt to make the counter-argument on account of being a stranger to America and it's healthcare system, but would point to the existence of this, just in case you haven't seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDOQpfaUc8

Exactyl my point... I think we're on the same page/boat/car/whatever...

Round 3:(and last round)

This time picked up one of PG's essays.... this one ..

https://paulgraham.com/disagree.html

>output

TL;DR:

1. Name-calling is weak. 2. Ad hominem attacks are weak. 3. Criticizing tone is weak. 4. Contradiction needs evidence. 5. Counterargument can be convincing. 6. Refutation is strongest, refute the central point. 7. Classifying disagreement helps identify dishonest arguments. 8. Being less mean makes people happier.

And for round two went with a lesswrong sequences.. Here's the source

https://www.lesswrong.com/s/gFvira6tHpLXnqCLH/p/TGux5Fhcd7Gm...

and here's the output

>output

TL;DR: People reject new ideas for irrational reasons, not just lack of credentials. Asking "Is that your true rejection?" can help, but be careful not to psychoanalyze.

I fed it some top half of the lines from here.. Aljazeera about the ongoing conflict.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/9/15/israels-wa...

and got this as

> output

Israel's Gaza Shitshow: 26 Dead, Beit Lahiya Residents Told to GTFO

More rubble, more bodies, more bullshit. Israel's playing whack-a-mole with Palestinians, hitting schools because why the fuck not? Meanwhile, they're telling folks in Beit Lahiya to scram, probably to make room for more "totally not settlements, we swear."

Oh, and Israelis are protesting for a Hamas deal. Good luck with that.

Interesting that you read that comment as inequality...

> You're not going to convince folks the world is better when they know what kind of deal they're getting vs others out there

Somehow i read that as equal opportunities.... To me a fair deal generally means, something close to equal opportunities(of course, ceteris paribus, and rarely do we have all other things equal, but adjusting for it..)

Arcline a startup claims fastest speech latency end-to-end better than YC companies....

Ahhh.. wouldn't that be better by using a percentage of filler words/total words in title threshold?? I don't know if a feature simply strips out the filler words in title, it's not always useful and rather harmful is what I would argue.

Ughhh.. I hate that word, especially when it refers to the protest acts like spaghetti on art, or slow march on a road delaying traffic etc... I think partly because it smells like a society that has started worshipping "traffic" or "business as usual" instead of doing that by deliberate choice.

Seems brave blocks some js scripts .. this works in Firefox

I think it comes down the exploration vs maximization/exploitation instincts that grows and changes as a human being grows. For ex: teens/early adults has more exploration instinct.(it's a hypothesis that's true for at least some sections of human society, not sure how far it generalizes).

For me it was yahoo chat rooms that filled the need, this omegle founder had created to solve.(at least till it got filled with bots) The real question is what will a teenager/(mostly exploration instinct person) today will use and will they even be able to anonymously talk to a stranger to share perspectives??

I don't know, perhaps because I have passed the majorly exploration instinct stage due to life's responsibilities and commitments, but I sometimes worry, that there's no such tool anymore.

I agree with you and think the downvotes are unfair. That said it doesn't help to just wring our hands about it.(Yes i know you weren't. You were just pointing out it could've been prevented).

Oh.. please do share the details... may be a blog post or a longer comment here.

interesting article about taking neither the top-down nor the bottom-up approach.

I tell most people I am a software mechanic. :-P

I'll third that...

This is what has become the default that our current system works to incentivize in real terms, but with a lot of marketing to discourage following this path. I work in India, but with a corporate American client atm, and have seen this in operation,(luckily it's a fairly small/medium company so not too much). Having worked in a few startups(with ESOPs) from India before this, I really, really wonder how a global/multi-national company can work with equity based incentives at this point, and if it will help a bit to improve the incentives.

>Perhaps it's social media that makes that they are either too aware of it or simply mention it more often.

Here's a question for me to understand where you're coming from and you to examine your assumptions. How does "too aware" get defined? Who defines it? I am an 80s kid(though grew up in India) and seen some issues myself, but can't claim I am worse off for knowing what I did. And to be clear, I didn't have internet till the start of the millenium and relied on books, radio and newspapers and I still was more about the state of the world i was to inherit than my parents.

Came here to say this... Social media is not the cause.. It's the light that illuminates(and sometimes exaggerates/highlights) the terrible ills of the current modern world problems we live in.

Okay.. this comment finally got me to login and chime-in on this topic. > And I don’t care how rare it is. It’s not rare enough. It’s not good if it happens once. “It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.” And again, I agree that sometimes people just said something shitty or at least that got interpreted shittily, but I have never seen something even once where it didn’t feel like a horridly disproportionate response. Not even once.

Completely agree... No arguments with this ..

And as always there is a but.. (Note: following is not a personal or specific counter-argument to this comment). The general calling it "cancel-culture" or "leftist political correctness forcing it's way (Aka fascist-leftist" narrative misses the point as much as the common "it's rare, but these people deserve it. They're horrible people" narrative.

The way i look at it "freedom to innovate, and have a system that sets up a market that encourages innovation" has brought us this current social media centered around outrage, fear, anger and rage centered way of connecting to people. Those employers are "free-to-fire" as much as each person in the mob that responds with rage is free to express their opinion and the one person who uncensoredly tweeted something is free to make mistakes. So what's the solution, I don't know anything specific outside of going all mystic/mythic/wishful saying we should all practice empathy better, we should find better ways of connecting to each other and may be (social networking and recommendation) algorithms that can help deeper connections than shallow ones.

To be honest, there's a skeptical(and pessimistic and fearful) side of me that thinks that's not gonna happen and we'll end up in a divergent world(https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2022/02/23/divergentism/).

The other solution proposed is (completely free speech with pure anonymity based protection from society based outlash) also suffers from the problems like minority voices getting drowned out. Majority opinions and stereotypes being elevated to "The capital "T" Truth"(https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/224865-the-capital-t-truth-...) rather than being viewed in perspective..

> “It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.” This is a noble sentiment, but I do wonder how much this is true in what we have managed to implement and wonder if we would ever be able to implement something like this without going to "minority report" level extreme censoring and monitoring. (https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=925249... ) or with some humour(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXPOw2unxy0).

I used to think about this angle and eventually realized that the absolutist ideas of "freewill" and "consent" are ideals from platonic land and in practice it is questionable any one will find the ideal version of these.

Sorry about that I was a bit not at my best. And haven't checked this thread till now.

And here's the twitter thread with some plots about this data ( https://twitter.com/moyix/status/1491803929801150471 )

I think your comment got an unfair downvote. The rant was okay, but it went on to talk about a strawman argument of a measure(beef consumption) before flying. However, the better I'd have put the whole rant(not sure OP agrees, this is just my reading of it), is like this: We've been reactively forming policies out of fear of extreme bad/negative consequence events. Since, the time window of public/societal memory is limited and there's a cycle of elections and power structure climbing too involved, the policies tend to be ones that are sellable/explain-away-able to the vast majority of the public. And these become the standards till another event occurs and never re-considered.

I think we can and should be confident about the short-medium term negative effects of high CO2 on human civilization. You can always spread doubt about anything that's long-term(say more than 2 decades) but it doesn't help to hope long-term it works, and short-term let it hurt as much as possible.

Hmm.. i was wondering how cheap it actually was .. Can we re-use the Gallium used in this process?? Can we recover it?? Sorry I haven't yet had time to deep-dive on the article.

Ah.. independant invention without significant capital/money based support is very rare in the modern day world. So I'm sure it will support only inventors at an organizational level and at that level, there are lots of skewed incentives for the CXO level peeps to do more marketing that inventing and ensuring most value is captured for the organization than passed on.

Ughh.. I think we need openly sourced models and open-sourced data, but also am pessimistic about how much the current market forces will try to either just appropriate the results or plain simply suppress the spread of those results. For all that FOSS has come to(I'm happy, but disappointed) I feel like the difficulties of building a business around FOSS is still a pretty big force keeping it's growth down. Not sure there's a change anytime soon. I predict (open-source) model building and data collation and creation is gonna have these same problems.

That's a very intriguing metaphor.. and reminds me of the optimization manually vs using `gcc -O2` .. I am wondering if the "pre-mature optimization is the root of evil" quote applies here and we should all just use async first and only go for threaded/multi-processing programming if there seems to be a performance issue for the business application.