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But, I do think this is kind of where the whole surveillance capitalism thing is headed. It is interesting to me everyone always points at China as this dystopian nightmare, but even major media outlets are now admitting all their articles on China's evil "social credit score" were kinda BS [2]. Seems to me the real nightmare is with our own oligarchs.
[1]: https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/extraordinary-pierre-omidy... [2]: https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/15/china-social-credit-sys...
If everyone googled about what is going on some part of the world, almost all would read the Wikipedia article. If the Wikipedia article differed in any major way from what the Pentagon's goals were, well... you can see how that would be a problem for the Pentagon. If you allow yourself to believe that the goals and movements of the Pentagon are not always grand, you can see how the political content there can more or less act as a weapon of war. Not really an exaggeration to say that, i really don't think...
I feel like a lot of people just aren't catching on to how tightly managed US media is when it comes to "hostile" or "aggressive" actions of others, "democracy", "brutal dictators", etc. in other parts of the world. People are really still ingesting these corporate news sources with anything other than the utmost suspicion.
https://groups.google.com/g/racket-users/c/hP1hZDWnj7Y
It is about "social contracts" and seems to kind of address some of what you are saying here. Basically, the community comes to an agreement on what some good common contracts should be. I wonder if there are any other social problems in the lisp languages that we could think of that can be developed by consensus this way.
If you're worried about brutality, you might want to look up what US sanctions on Syria are actually doing to the people there. They can't eat. They have no heat. No gas. We are stealing their oil. Do you think the Syrian people might see us as an authoritarian government? Because they are suffering, we are causing it, there's nothing they can do, and the situation is enforced by violence.
If you watch some of the edit wars when a big event happens in the news, you can often see very useful information (with sources) being thrown away. It's not really possible to get information on there that conflicts with the current military goals, because that would upset the mission.
It is corrupt extraction of human ability and based on suffering, it is just not tracked closely. People do time for the worst things. Using drugs is not a real crime worthy of punishment, for example, but people just sit and sit and work and work for really dumb stuff like that. Justice system seems clearly not some rehabilitative thing where people involved are helping in good faith. That is maybe what they imply on tv crime shows or something.
Why would anyone trust someone who worked for or works for the CIA exactly? Their job is to lie to people and be good at it.
Also, i don't really follow the tech, but i thought i remembered seeing (on HN maybe?) positive reports of actually useful BCI prototypes. Maybe those were overblown or limited, though.
Anyway, i was exploring options and i was glad to find your experience. I think i am ultimately looking for something similar to what you want and maybe will email you at some point to ask about this if i do indeed get a little deeper into it if you don't mind.
https://caltechletters.org/viewpoints/feynman-harassment-sci...
Also, can someone come to me with a subpoena and a gag order for hosting email for my friends?
The fact is that media bubbles are a powerful tool. There is a reason the US / CIA spend so much time/money on projects like Radio Free Asia. If you are on the same side as the CIA and US imperialism, you might want to think about why that is and what kind of harm you are causing with your jingoistic posts. The US media is carefully controlled and an opinion-making bubble of its own. Yes, many Chinese people support their government and it's not because they are duped, actually.
[1] https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3091438/us-has-...
Training -- Schools should be covering the training problem in this PDF, and i think that would help a lot.
Availability -- GHC is no longer an 'adventure' to install
Packagability -- Can't you just build standalone programs with most FLs?
Popularity -- Aren't they getting more popular?
"They don't get it" -- I don't think the example given of "i need some documentation and stability" applies anymore.
CI/CD is also separable from this issue, i think. But the thing that you can do well with it which is write and regularly run tests is not.
My thinking is the main problem is people just aren't exposed to functional languages enough and get stuck working to line theirs and other peoples' pockets before they have had enough exposure.
I also have some gripes with the actual document which i will post in a top-level reply.