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Sounds like you are going to get screwed if you go with the dev group. Especially since you will be talking to investors to which they will be introducing you.

Keep pounding the streets to find your technical co-founder. Go to meetups and other events. It's just like dating.

Why you mad tho?

A fine stream of mediocrity.

I drink a hell of a lot of whiskey.

Sometimes a ding dong is the only valid response.

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If you want to get better, build more things.

And don't use the terms "code ninja" or "rockstar" to describe engineers. Those terms are self aggrandizing crap that inadequate engineers use to stroke their own egos. At best using those terms marks you as being naive.

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Just for the love of god don't write another dynamo clone. The world has enough.

It sounds like you have confused "tough" with "asshole". Common mistake.

The topic is about companies doing OSS. These are the types of companies I see deriving value from OSS. Feel free to contribute more.

There are two kinds of companies for whom OSS makes sense. The first category of OSS company is the data driven companies. Twitter, Google, Yahoo, and Facebook all fall into this category. Data driven companies derive their primary business value from the quality and quantity of their underlying data. They give away their software because it is free PR, endears developers to their platforms and it is a big morale booster for their engineers. Google will never give away its search index. Facebook and Twitter will never give away dumps of their graphs. Those things are the crown jewels, not the software that supports them.

The other kind of company that benefits from open source is companies like Red Hat, Basho and Opscode. Their open source offerings are loss leaders intended to stimulate enterprise sales. Mission critical systems get built on the open source software, and then managers can elect to buy enterprise features and support from the vendors.

I think this is an appropriate response: http://img.skitch.com/20100819-b6qma2dbe8rrqkm1whj8jyetma.jp...

Responding to the grandparent's edit.

I disagree with your premise that a vesting cliff exists as a "getting to know you" period. It is a guarantee of a minimum investment of time for a given amount of equity. The person put in the required time and now wants to do something else. This is not dishonorable in the least.

You seem to be confusing personal relationships with business relationships. This might explain why you see quitting as a sort of betrayal.

Your employment agreements set up the economic incentives for working at your company. If the agreement is 1 year cliff to vest and the employee took advantage of that why would you get mad? You got a years worth of work out of that person and in exchange that person got his/her stock. Sounds like a fair deal to me.

On the other hand, firing an engineer right before he/she vests is unethical because you are getting almost a years worth of work without having to pay out the stock. Also it is a pretty good way to get sued by said employee.

I was part of the Powerset acquisition which was largely for tech/talent. The transition has been a long slow death march to try and reach our bonus payouts.

That's terribly misleading, though. Facebook has huge clusters for performing offline business analytics. Therefore comparing them to Reddit, which presumably has a much smaller offline analytics backend, is not an apples to apples comparison in terms of efficiency.

Last I heard one of the original HBase guys quit programming altogether and went into plumbing.

Sure, I agree with all that. What I meant by my statement was that I could not understand how a significant proportion of an otherwise entrepreneurial and libertarian leaning audience could be arguing that default is a moral lapse.

Do you feel that bankruptcy is an unethical process? Perhaps we should bring back debtors prison? After all, miscreants like me put ourselves in this position. Should we not pay for our mistakes through indentured servitude if need be? Perhaps we ought to pass our debts on to our children.

Crime isn't breach of contract. It's breaking the law. The law isn't a contract, it's a codified set of rules put forth by a legislative body. Contracts are subordinate to the law in America.

Except for the fact that exercising a clause in a contract isn't a crime.

I'm currently in the process of walking away from a home out of state. I moved from Delaware to California close to 3 years ago due to a really good job opportunity. I couldn't take the hit in selling our house at the time since it was underwater, so I wound up renting it out. Through that time I have had 2 renters on the property, both of whom wound up walking away from their leases. The last renters trashed the place and I could not afford to get it fixed up enough to rent it out again.

So I was stuck with an unrentable home out of state that I could not afford to fix up and could barely afford the mortgage payments on. Therefore I just decided to simply walk away from it.

Given that context, I simply cannot understand how people can say it's either immoral or unethical to walk away from a house. The loan modifications that banks try to shove down your throat are generally shitty deals, they simply want recapitalize all of your late fees and missed payments back into the principle, putting you further underwater. Working out a more equitable deal with the home retention folks is damn near impossible. Not to mention all of the collections calls and come ons from unscrupulous firms that want thousands of dollars to try and work out a deal for you. Walking away is an act of last resort and the financial and credit penalties are there to mitigate it.

The store owner did not consent to the robbery, by definition. The bank consented to the contract and agreed that the home would be sufficient collateral for the loan.

I remember the Yahoo guys saying they would open source PNUTS/sherpa at the very first NoSQL meetup. It's a shame that it's been so long and they have not followed through on that.

I love xkcdexplained.

This article reads like it was written by someone with an axe to grind against traditional meat.

With an Amazon shopping cart?

Werner Vogels, their CTO seems to think differently: https://twitter.com/Werner/statuses/5345892061