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Id be happy to hire anyone who got fired under these circumstances

It sounds like terrible product management in general.

People seriously switch languages based on the time it takes their dev environment to boot up?

Ideally, you wouldn't be restarting the process all that often. I'll typically be REPL'd in for quite a few hours at a time as I'm developing (only reason for restarts is usually pulling in new dependencies, or if your state gets out of whack; which is something that doesn't happen all that often after adopting Stuart's "reloaded" workflow based on component)

Clojure is one of the most addictive languages I've ever worked in. I can see why so many people pick it up as something to build hobby projects with, it's just so damn fun to write.

To be fair, there's been quite a bit of cross-pollination, but the original surge in popularity for React came about because of the pioneering work by David Nolen to show how to fully unlock the promise of React's approach when coupled with immutable data structures and a functional mindset (Basically everything presented in the original version of Om.)

You take the struggles of a beginner as an indictment on the broader professional JS development community?

Honestly, at this point, since the JS community seems to have fallen back on just lifting all of the good ideas from the Clojurescript community, why not just go straight to the source and start learning some Clojure?

- You don't need to bring your own persistent data structure lib (ImmutableJS/mori/etc,)

- Don't need to bring a functional utility lib (lodash/ramda/etc)

- The build ecosystem revolves around a really solid piece of software in Leiningen (that has a ridiculously high level of adoption)

- Hot reloading (mainly through Figwheel) is simply magical (it's stable and "just works".) The amount of work to get a hot reloading environment setup and maintained with Webpack and various loaders is way too much, and often involves actual changes to application code to support it, which is unacceptable.

- The language itself is designed from the ground up to be functional

This is just what I can think of off the top of my head after a few glasses of wine, but there's a ton of reasons why we as JS developers should start taking a hard look at Clojurescript again.

This is more a React community thing. It actually moves faster and re-invents wheels at a more rapid pace than the broader JS ecosystem.

A lot of this re-invention happens when a community "celebrity" decides it's time to (yet again) move to the latest new and shiny way of doing state management or data fetching. It's pretty annoying and exhausting at this point to attempt to keep up.

A lot of these have a good amount of overlap with: "Signs That You're a Sociopath"

Clojurescript has made me excited about frontend again.

no

Same impression here. This piece had a surprising lack of depth given the vastness each topic the author decided to drop in the middle of it without any honest attempt to tie them together to the broader narrative.

> programming isn't a job

Hmm, interesting. Wonder what i'm actually doing from 10-7 every day in that case.

That company appears to be pretty bad at hiring executive technical management.

I'm seriously ill after reading this

False dilemma much? Private versions of most dependency repos exist (npm, maven, etc)

Because a lot of people here are "quiet failures".

waitFor is a code smell to be honest. Switching to a flux implementation that makes it unnecessary is your best bet (like redux)

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Is it just me or has the anti-Americanism on hn been getting worse lately?

It's not a press release; its Lee's personal post.

Seems like a lot of justification for being sloppy

This doesn't sound like a good idea and seems to defeat the purpose of componentization in the first place.

The site's title font is awfully suggestive too

Andreesen though! Changes everything!

Drama Queen post of the year, good lord. Why don't you try figuring out what parameters the software you're using is designed to operate in before throwing such a public shit fit?

I've worked in Clojure for years and have no clue what you're even talking about

Quitting