milankragujevic

You might have missed my point.

The fact that Germany has bad internet is completely unrelated to the manufacturers of equipment that German telcos use.

And of course, you should not compare next gen access infrastructure with xDSL, as they are not mutually exclusive, and all countries have areas with degraded infrastructure on old technology, but also new infrastructure on new technology.

This is, again, completely unrelated to who makes the telco equipment.

If it's any consolation, it is just as bad in other countries, when using Huawei equipment. This is not due to technology, this is due to carriers and ISPs. Those two are completely separate from tech companies making networking hardware. Ironically [for this comment] Germany uses A LOT of Huawei stuff for the access network on xDSL.

Is this Luminati? [0] Because this sounds so much like Luminati ("Hola").

[0] https://luminati.io/

@OP did you try calling support to report the problem? It's almost impossible to diagnose ANY internet problems (not related to your own equipment of course) and the ISP has tools and access to do it. In any case, it's much easier and faster to contact support.

In my experience, even if I discover what is the problem, if it's on their side I still have to go through support to get it fixed, so I just wasted my time. And in most cases the lowest level of support doesn't even write down the information I give in the ticket, even if I send an email.

Well they could 1) renew the IP before it expires or 2) reboot the modem remotely at 3:30am for example.

> Creating a for-profit platform with intent to do illegal streaming will be

Wasn't this already a felony? I clearly remember getting into legal problems with MPAA when I was 15 years old and made an online version of Popcorn Time, and that wasn't P2P.

I'm genuinely happy for you in that case.

And it's great your ISP doesn't use Huawei OLTs which only work with Huawei ONUs, so you can plug the fiber directly into the ERx and setup a connection either as IPoE, PPPoE or just DHCP client on a VLAN.

I'm sorry if I said something controversial, I can take a look and send you relevant info, but for now please take a look at:

Telekom Srbija (Serbia)

SBB (Serbia)

Orion telekom (Serbia)

Supernova (Serbia)

A1 Slovenia

Telekom Slovenije (Slovenia)

Telemach (Slovenia)

A1 HR (Croatia)

Telemach (Croatia)

T-Com (Croatia)

Iskon (Croatia)

Telekom Srpske (Bosnia and Herzegovina)

Telemach (Bosnia and Herzegovina)

Triontel (Bosnia and Herzegovina)

Mtel (Montenegro)

T-Com (Montenegro)

T-Com (North Macedonia)

A1 (North Macedonia)

... and similar in Bulgaria

On all relevant websites, you cannot find info on BYO, and I can personally guarantee you cannot use your device on GPON or DOCSIS networks.

Only Romania is an exception.

Yes, my point was that you cannot "just" use your own equipment. There are many hoops to jump through.

Also, most widely sold Unifi equipment is expensive, cheaper devices are very rare to find in limited markets.

I would not consider this available if I have to order it from another country and pay customs + wait weeks for delivery.

And again, the equipment has to be whitelisted by the OLT and most ISPs don't want to that. And cloning the S/N is difficult/impossible.

I think we have two different kinds of ISPs in mind. I'm talking about mass-market monopolies, and you're talking about "artisanal" small ISPs where you can walk into the CEOs office and pass a rack of routers on the way there.

Yes but the key is to have an ISP that [is forced to] allows you to get your own modem. Also most of the world is on DOCSIS 3.0, so any older than that is DOCSIS 2.0 which would be max 50 Mbps which is not ... nice, and that's DSL territory (VDSL2 does up to 100/30 Mbps).

Being able to use your own modem would fix a lot of problems I have with DOCSIS ISPs, but sadly there's no regulation for it. So yeah, you have to use theirs.

Yes, in fact I do! My whole country!

(and other countries on the Balkans, it's all Huawei all-in-one GPON CPE everywhere!)

That is not a common scenario, most people in the world get an ONT with an integrated ONU. For example Huawei HG8245Q2. So in your case obviously you can just plug in any router. But a lot of people get it all in one device. And most ISPs don't let you choose what CPE you get.

Agreed. For most people remote management is a life savior. But hostile can also be company policy, i.e. rewriting DNS servers every hour, etc.

But where do you plug in the fiber? Where does one even get GPON CPE on the market? And how do you clone the serial number of the ONU?

Yes, me too. But it's more expensive. And ISPs are so used to milking old infrastructure it's a miracle we're getting any fiber now that DOCSIS can do gigabit.

edit: funnily enough, DSL is similar to AON in that it's dedicated last mile

That is uncommon, usually users get a single device that does it all and cannot easily replace the all-in-one with a media converter or single-port ONT.

It depends how they do TR069. My ISP has multiple interfaces, i.e. HSI (high speed internet, bridge or NAT PPPoE), Voice (bridge with ISP network, VoIP for phones), Voice_ATA (bridge with ISP network, VoIP via embedded ATA, modem acts as one IP phone), TR069 (through which CWMP communicates and also which exposes SSH, Telnet, HTTP and HTTPS management on an internal IP address, bridged with ISP network) and IPTV (used for IPTV STBs, bridged with their network).

All interfaces are separate, and if you bridge your modem it only bridges HSI on LAN1. Phone works, IPTV on LAN 2 and 3 works and of course TR069 works.

If on xDSL, ISP can see all stats on their end of the DSLAM, there is literally nothing to configure from the modem side, except maybe turn on/off certain modes, but by default they're all turned on.

Well yes but nothing prevents you from, for example, changing both user's passwords so they can't log in to even change WiFi password. [1]

Needless to say, I don't trust it and disable it whenever I can. I can set up my PPPoE or VoIP access myself.

[1] https://milankragujevic.com/uploads/oKazARE_.png

Having DOCSIS is the worst. The connection is unpredictably unstable and I personally reject any belief of a "tuned cable system" existing. It's all a mess. And by design since DOCSIS auth is done on the CPE (modem), the device is not trusted and you cannot use your own unless the ISP [is forced to] allows it and whitelists it.

So DOCSIS is hell.

GPON is ... depends. The technology is great, but some ISPs can and will ruin it because they're greedy and shortsighted. Someplaces you can get a bridge CPE (ONT) that does have remote access but doesn't allow configuration, someplaces the ONT itself is fine (i.e. HG8245 series for which too you can disable TR069 interface and CWMP and change the passwords - which I did), but someplaces you just get the "DOCSIS over fiber" experience, with hostile ONT in your home network the ISP uses to make your existence miserable.

Personally, DSL is fine for me. I am so used to low speeds (~20/2 Mbps) when I am in the village (since march due to COVID, working from home), I have started bonding [0] DSL and LTE for around 95/45 Mbps and that is fine for me.

So, I'd rather stay on tried-and-true, stable, low ping DSL, than muck around with DOCSIS and fear any rain or wind.

For GPON it depends on the ISP, but the technology does not dictate any remote management requirements except OMCI which is not concerned with "higher layer" configuration such as WiFi or router features.

[0] https://milankragujevic.com/openmptcprouter-true-bonding-of-...

> I don't believe it's an ISPs role to be fiddling with the application level services of someone's internet.

It is not but it doesn't mean they won't do it. I am lucky enough to be unlucky enough to be using VDSL2, so I use my own CPE where possible, and often just disable the TR069 interface and CWMP functionality so the ISP can't break into my modem.

The reason for this is they often factory reset the modem if their automated auditing scripts notice something "forbidden", i.e. DMZ to my router, which causes me great inconvenience to have to log into the modem again and setup a DMZ. Same would happen if I was using (soft-disabled) Bridge mode.

So I just deny them access. On some modems I also download the config, change SSH and Telnet password (as well as "admin" and "telecomadmin" passwords for web UI), remove CWMP entries completely, and then restore the config so the modem won't connect.

Best part is, if I have a problem that I have to report to the ISP, I first factory reset the modem, it pulls the config via TFTP on TR069 interface, resets again and configures itself according to their wishes - then I try to reproduce the problem, and if it is present, I call them to open a support ticket. If it is not present, I roll back to my config and try to debug the issue on my side.

No harm to the modem, no time wasted for me.

Sadly this is not at all possible for DOCSIS cable modems nor GPON ONTs for fiber to the home service. There you're SOL if your ISP is being mean and displaying anti-user behavior.

All down for me, Serbia. YouTube works for me when logged out (i.e. in Incognito).

There are cheap postpaid packages with only data (a lot, >10 GB) and ~100 minutes, SMS is paid per message.

I mean my microwave has an electronic dial to enter the time which increments by 5 seconds starting at 10 seconds, and a Start/Another 30s more button, so you can set it to any time very quickly. It's the cheapest model that doesn't have the physical mechanical controls.

Sadly, in a lot of places, antipsychotics from the 50s (i.e. Chlorpromazine) are the FIRST kind of therapy given, even to adolescent patients with "generic" depression, alongside SSRIs.

No consent given or asked for, let alone informed consent. You are told "take this".

This is not in circumstances of hospitalization, let alone involuntary hospitalization, but regular outpatient treatment.

People who are in a bad place generally don't research meds, and if they are not extremely uncooperative, or paranoid, will take them and the doctors' words at face value.

Consequences are severe and long-lasting.

Absolutely shameful and despicable. These doctors should be shamed by the scientific community for [almost] using prehistoric notions of "hysteria" to mistreat ilness by basically showing "see, he's not crying anymore! PROGRESS!" while pointing to a barely awake, sedated patient.

Any and all progress is usually SSRIs and psychotherapy, if available. Why do they give these antiquated meds that are not appropriate for the situation (i.e. CPZ) is beyond me. These are not psychoses, this is Episodium depressivum, gradus moderati .

Sorry, had to get that out. This is from personal experience.

Just wanted to thank you for mentioninf hCaptcha.

I had tried it some time before but IIRC it was either invite-only or enterprise-only or had some "size" requirements.

Just saw that it's available for all. Thank you!

It doesn't necessarily mean the network is not technically capable, they probably just don't have a plan with faster speeds.

GPON is 2.4/1.2 Gbps and it's shared with multiple users so it's incredibly unlikely that any part if the core infrastructure is limited to Gigabit. Only the CPE is.

You can deploy 2 Gbps service on GPON though the quality will be low-ish, or you can run multiple versions of xPON standards on a single fiber network and offer > 1 Gbps to users who you switch to XGPON2. Others stay with existing CPE and plans and GPON as if nothing changed.

I disagree. 4G is severly limited in capacity so speed will vary everywhere, and same will apply to 5G too. Fiber has incredible capacity and can be upgraded by changing OLT and ONT equipment on both sides. It can also run multiple protocols.

2 Gbps XGPON2 is starting to roll out in my country and it's a rather simple upgrade (but costly). If your ISP isn't offering gigabit on fiber, it's purely motivated by greed and lack of competition.

Also I'm not aware of any "community fiber cabinets" limited to 1 Gbps. Are you talking about GPON or Ethernet networks? Ethernet is not FTTH but FTTN, like DOCSIS or VDSL can be.

It could be using Huawei software and hardware. Serbian ISP "Telekom Srbija" which uses mostly Huawei HG8245Q2 ONTs and has standardized on Huawei OLT and Core network, also uses these Nokia branded devices. AFAIK the Huawei GPON network is incompatible with other vendors which is why there's a small part of the capital city Belgrade stuck on old ZTE CPEs as that was a part of a pilot FTTH project with ZTE before China financed this rollout.

So, my point being, given they also use this exact Nokia ONT, it could very well mean that it's compatible with Huawei because it IS, in part, Huawei.

See also: https://www.neweurope.eu/article/us-and-serbia-to-sign-secur... (context - https://www.telenor.rs/en/about-telenor/news/news-and-press-...)

For me, SPA is either chosen due to "fancy factor" or because the app is too complex to easily implement as a traditional (SSR) web page. That could be a complex search+filter with autocomplete, or a social network-like UI with infinite scroll and dynamic widgets.