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2. There's not just one mental process. There are an infinite number (most likely) of mental processes. But even though we're not both part of the same mental process, we're both part of the same causal process. The reason we perceive ourselves as discrete entities is: 1. mental processes (thoughts) can be both true and false, 2. true thoughts are more rare than false thoughts, 3. false thoughts are still capable of doing work, and therefore, our survival has relied on the false thought that each of us is a separate individual, even though the truth is that we're causally dependent on one another, our environment, etc.
On the other hand, if you want to look at it philosophically, then the only sensible definition of "causation" is "anything necessary for a thing to exist." So what's necessary for a thing to exist? Every other thing in the universe that is not that thing! Pluto causes us to exist right now because it hasn't turned into a giant space goat and swallowed the Earth. Yes, the fact that something DIDN'T prevent the existence of a thing is also ultimately a cause of that thing's existence. Causation in its purest form can help us understand the nature of reality, but it can't help us predict anything. It's only when we draw a line between causes that we can control and causes that we can't that it becomes a practical tool (not that understanding reality isn't practical).
So you can see, this whole correlation != causation discussion is pure nonsense. Get some philosophical skill before you try to discuss philosophical issues and stop embarrassing yourselves. Sheesh, it's ridiculous.