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SSH to devboxes is the exact usecase for services like https://shellbox.dev: create a box using ssh... and ssh into it. Now web, no subs. Codex can create it's own boxes via ssh

how does it differ from playwright-cli?

It doesn't solve recording and uploading later... say a movie. So how does it even make sense?

you can spin similar instances very cheaply and billed only for the time openclaw actually runs in https://shellbox.dev ($0.02 for 2vcpu, 4gb ram, 50gb hdd, real linux with headless chrome etc)

Checkout shellbox.dev, you can do pretty much the same, automating it all bia ssh

How is this different than say bubblewrap and others?

Can be significantly cheaper on a vm that wakes up only when yhe agebt works, see for e.g. https://shellbox.dev

but if you move to gpt-5.4 ?

It's down for me

so.... is RTO optional

idk, seems being single rocks :) I have not time for myself at all

how does it compare to https://shellbox.dev? (and others like exe.dev, sprites.dev, and blaxel.ai)

ohh Ki and Helix on the front page today... it's a good day! :)

I don't like the positional keybindings. There is no real difference from regular keybindings configured with profiles for Qwerty, Dvorak, etc. In practice, it just means presenting them drawn into keyboards in a way that is hard to quickly search or use in the terminal and anywhere really. Where's the "line" key? Search the drawing! (Oh... it is there in th top left corner, but which exact key?) I prefer a list. So, really, it is not even that big of a "special thing" except the presentation.

"The child can install a virtual machine, create an account on the virtual machine and set the age to 18 or over."

No, the vm is for grownups over 18.

Yeah, very easy to do today. May VPS providers help with this, checkout:

https://exe.dev

https://sprites.dev

https://shellbox.dev

Or... use something like https://shellbox.dev

Yeah, I'm telling it to use aws cli to spin up instances, configure them, start servers, read cw logs etc.

I use shellbox.dev to create sandboxes through ssh, without ever leaving the terminal

And shellbox.dev

This is exactly what I built shellbox.dev for.

SSH in, it resumes where you left off, auto-suspends on disconnect. $0.50/month stopped.

I have the same pattern - one box per project, never think about them until I need them.

Right idea but the reason people don't do this in practice is friction. Setting up a throwaway VM for every agent session is annoying enough that everyone just runs YOLO on their host.

I built shellbox (https://shellbox.dev) to make this trivial -- Firecracker microVMs managed entirely over SSH. Create a box, point your agent at it, let it run wild. You can duplicate a box before a risky operation (instant, copy-on-write) and delete it after.

Billing stops when the SSH session disconnects.

No SDK, no container config, just ssh. Any agent that can run shell commands works out of the box.

This matches my experience. I run a pay-per-use VM service (shellbox.dev) entirely on Hetzner auction servers with Firecracker microVMs. Sub-second boot, full Linux environment, SSH-only interface. The entire "cloud" layer is Firecracker + Btrfs reflinks for instant copy-on-write cloning. No managed Kubernetes, no proprietary orchestrators.

The total cost of that stack is remarkably low — cheap enough to offer VMs at $0.02/hr running and $0.50/mo stopped, which undercuts most hyperscalers for bursty workloads. The "billions in investment" framing is exactly the problem. Most of what hyperscalers sell is convenience wrappers around commodity compute, and the lock-in is the product.

Wrote up the economics here if anyone's curious: https://shellbox.dev/blog/race-to-the-bottom.html

Docker and vms are not the only options though... you can use bubblewrap and other equivalents for mac

it is not the cheapest on a per hr basis, so I hope it will self select to not be used for such purposes

the shellbox VMs work great as sandbox for Claude-Code. It uses ssh to create and connect to the boxes -- very simple and quick to setup

check it out: https://shellbox.dev

Excellent point. This may be better proposition for more expensive instances

But you cannot suspend these vps so easily and fast. Shellbox.dev aims to be frictionless in that regard

Currently the price is in the same ballpark as dev.exe ($20/month no suspendind) ans sprites.dev (higher for suspended butnlowe for running)

You are missing an ssh key. Run this first:

ssh-keygen -t ed25519