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Damm...thats going waayy back - but I want to say VS/VME (VM/VME) in the early 70s and vms in the mid 70s ?

and... you were responding to a human... so ... no problem..

someone did want an unreliable count from a chatbot, and did ask for it.. and they passed the information along in their comment (along with a very upfront comment about how the generated it). Feel free to come with other methods to generate unreliable summarization if you don't like the chatbot generated one. I'm sure humans and off by one errors or maybe badly formed regex's can give you a whole range of new things to complain about.

actually - they didn't...

That was a human posting a count of issues generated by an ai... not an ai generated message? Or do all the issues need to be counted by hand now ?

IIRC correctly, the stratus PL/1 thing went back to the main hardware designer being big on PL/1 at IBM (PL/1 compiler group maybe?). Also, fun trivia - the Stratus was apparently the first (only?) mini/mainframe that IBM rebadged (they sold it as the model 88)

Stratus 'servers' were originally 'super minis' - 19" racks full of gear with multi-million dollar price tags - looking at the picture in the article, I was surprised to see what look liked racks of desktops ?

the originals ran like 3 'cpu groups' or whatever they called it... all instructions ran on all 3 and the results were compared - one of the cool things done with this was taking faulty 'cpu groups' out of service without down time

Ohh...I guess I had moved off them before cpu switches. I heard they ported Unix to Stratus as well - Did you ever get a chance to play with it ? was it any good ?

I think VOS being PL/1 based pretty cool - Stratus (and Intel fab PL/M stuff) was the only time I've ever gotten to work with PL/1...

yeah - the big difference was Tandem was software (+ hardware) fault tolerant while Stratus was full hardware level fault tolerant. This gave Tandem a real price edge.

Both were really popular with banks and brokerage houses (back when I worked with stratus at brokerages, HFT was just emerging and down time was umm... frowned upon :-D

I started working on Stratus machines right out of high school... They took me from backwoods New England to Wall St.

The were Awesome machines - don't let those filthy hobbitsis...err..tandem users cloud your judgement. Stratus was pure hardware FT, and tandem... wasn't :-P

Vos was pretty nice too - decent macro language - not all the utils you expect with a unix box, but in terms of the core OS and shell it was pretty good machine .. 40 years later I still love those machines and the career they helped get me into :-D

IIRC, Stratus was M68K (like 12 per cpu board organized into 3 logical cpu's for fault checking)

also an mmo thing - hunting for collectibles in game

that is NOT what it says - "tell the word that depending on this project WAS a bad idea" ... 'was' - past tense, as in depending on it in the past was a bad idea

The down vote was me - I really think calling deprecating a project after a decade+ telling the world 'depending on this project was a bad idea' is tone deaf.

there isn't ?? I sorta thought we figured all this out decades ago when SMB and DeCSS were being reversed? I think dosemu or something as well ?

I seem to recall DeCSS being the 'hot button' as it was RE'd in a 'non clean' way, the code released, and then a 'clean room' RE could be made from the 'public' info ??

edit: actually, at the time I think there was German law allowing RE for 'interoperablity' or some such. But that was a long time ago so my memory might be off.

I think it's very common - its just what a 'normie' is depends on your particular poison... it seems to have been incorporated in a lot of hobbies/niches to refer to anyone not deep in the niche ?

green cows ?

This is great! Very interesting - thanks!

Never heard of HarmonyOS before - looking at the website, it doesn't seem to mention being capability based, but it is 'distributed' ??

I'll insert my standard plug for Genode/Sculpt OS here... Capability based, and used/maintained commercially:

https://genode.org/

I mostly remember it from BBS's - it was _the_ way to run a multi-line BBS for a while.

GEOS was pretty cool too - amazing what you can fit in 64K if use a big enough hammer :-D

You forgot the Stabs!

yeah - growing up in Claremont NH, right across the connecticut river from Vermont, it was cool to see a few 'local' places in the article

As a counterpoint, I've worked remotely since like 2000 ... It gets easier and more 'normal' every year. So I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Sounds like they're having a 'NSA Moment'. After the leaks, there was a Bunch of high profile stories about employees leaving after their neighbors/friends/normies found out the sorts of stuff NSA was up to....

I used to use LOADLIN.exe - worked pretty, IIRC

I never had one, but apperently they tasted much better then the current variety (which IIRC, is in danger of suffering the same fate)

IIRC, there was actually a huge marketing push because people wouldn't each the current variety ?

PS - the old one didn't go 100% extinct, and you can get small numbers of them from specialty growers. Youtube has videos of people trying them (1)

1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ZtvpBoXzI

LOL - True Dat !! Thanks!

The sad part wasn't the bubble bursting...

It was watching all the potential being squandered and the internet basically being relegated to click farming and selling people crap they don't need.

All the really cool stuff seems to have died with the bubble...

It has been done... We used to get our POP gear built out from Dell (?) in shipping containers - pre-racked, wired, and cooled - just add network/power feeds. We'd have them dropped places we needed more capacity but there wasn't space available in the DC.