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Am making the killer app of ecommerce. Have put 6 years into refining the concept, and have a total experience of 10 years in the industry segment.

Seeking two world class hackers to be my confidantes and co-founders. I have defined the path to success; I need you to translate it into logical components and hack away at it. First release can occur within 4 weeks of your sign-in. We follow the principles of agile dvelopment and the "release early, modify rapidly" mantra.

We will aim for a rapid exit, say 12 months from the date of first release, You will be challenged every step of the way, and this is not for the faint of heart. I will guarantee a minimum $250K exit to each of you, with unlimited upside via your negotiable equity stake.

I have a working model with paying customers. I need you to transform it into a scalable product so that it can meet the overwhelming demand.

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me_jobs_r_u_woz··on How do I find a co-founder to, you know, run the business?
Are you kidding me! Is it really you, Nick? I love you, man! And stop this charade of "seeking advice" on a startup forum.
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on I'm in like with you invites
Yikes..sorry, didn't realize that you guys were talking about that site! Not my thing. Thx.
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on I'm in like with you invites
sorry danw, i mistyped earlier with th eunderscores. it's me.jobs.r.u.woz at gee male dott comm
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on I'm in like with you invites
me.jobs.r.u.woz at gee male dott comm
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on If my startup makes it to a series A stage, am I rich personally?
It's not a question of forcing. It's the norm. All other things being equal, why should someone take a lower salary?

And there are other factors. If your compensation becomes a benchmark for the rest of the team, now your company is in real trouble. You can't expect to hire key team members at less than the norm. It just won't happen. VCs know that.

Also, a VC's main job is to put out as much of their committed capital as possible into good deals. Allocating a large part of a preferred equity tranche to fund the maintenance and creation of a solid team is the right thing to do.

And comparing with large companies is not apples to apples. That's a different world; here's an extreme example of that world: http://valleywag.com/tech/greed/the-grotesque-1-salary-251104.php

me_jobs_r_u_woz··on If my startup makes it to a series A stage, am I rich personally?
I beg to differ.

In the Bay Area, VCs expect and want the founder/CEO to make approximately $150K to $175K per year after the VC round (i.e. Seies A). I have confirmed this by asking VC panels here in Orange County during open-mike sessions.

What should be clearly understood is that you are actually financing a part of that compensation via your significant equity dilution that would result from the new vesting schedule put in place by the VC! You typically can't escape this new vesting if you want VC money...which is why PG's question about how much cash will you take to just walk away from it has real substance behind it.

me_jobs_r_u_woz··on Attention Orange County hackers..I need two co-founders
You are right of course; I am somewhat hesitant to provide more details about it here. Judging from the handful of emails I have received, this is a good way to get the word out, and the real discussions can take place offline.
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on Attention Orange County hackers..I need two co-founders
chill, bro...it's just a silly metaphor to grab some attention :-)
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on Attention Orange County hackers..I need two co-founders
The user-facing part of the system is currently a VB client app. It's horrendous, but guess what - users love it because it meshes with the rest of their work environment, which is hardware devices connected to their PCs as well as other VB apps. The reason I would like at least one of my co-founders to know VB well is that when migrating this app to a web based equivalent, we want to preserve the essence of what is working. That delicate transplant surgery can be successful only when the team is well versed in web technologies as well as VB.
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on Attention Orange County hackers..I need two co-founders
Hey, no prob.
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on Attention Orange County hackers..I need two co-founders
Mukund and Leonidas, I have a reasonable understanding of programming; I designed and helped build a significant part of the code. I did not mean to appear as if I have no knowledge of, or desire to, learn code. But the opportunity I am talking about is to complete the transformation of the current app at hyper speed, so that we can fill the need right now, not in 12 months or longer. Surely, if the demand is as great as I am saying, someone will fill the gap very soon.
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on Attention Orange County hackers..I need two co-founders
That's why I am looking for great hackers, as opposed to good hackers. Great hackers know that the value of the group is greater than the sum of its parts ;-)
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on Attention Orange County hackers..I need two co-founders
Thanks for the suggestion; I am trying to avoid this path, as my best case outcome is that I will be an ok programmer - and that's not good enough to succeed. To win today, you have to have a real team.
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on Attention Orange County hackers..I need two co-founders
A good one :-)
me_jobs_r_u_woz··on Attention Orange County hackers..I need two co-founders
Great hackers know that they can build anything; what they don't know is what they should be building. My problem is the opposite. I know what to build because I have customers who are clamoring for it, but I don't have the right people to build it.

Your skills: Database guru, VB6 tinkerer (not a typo!), browser-to-hardware connectivity hacker, RoR lover.

One co-founder can complement the other, so you don't have to have all the skills.

My background: 10 years in ecommerce at founder/ceo level. Have developed a working app by hiring coders, and even have paying customers, but ran out of money and went back to investment banking. But the entrepreneural bug bites, and bites real bad. Meanwhile, the app continues to run and generate revenue. A month ago, I came across PG's writings and this forum, and now I am convinced that I was doing it wrong - instead of paying unmotivated coders, I should have brought on two hackers as my partners and co-founders.

Ideally, you should be based in Orange County CA where I am, so we can fully develop the core system in the next few months. We will then apply to YC's fall program, so you must be willing to move to the Bay Area.

While I am confident that YC will accept us (PG's Viaweb experience will create tremendous leverage), there are two other routes we can take - apply for Charles River's $100k-$250K program, or completely bootstrap this and not seek any outside capital.

Your equity is fully negotiable. If you are a true hacker, I need you and you need me. This Steve Jobs is seeking two Wozniaks!

Send me your background info to: me.jobs.r.u.woz at gee male dott comm.