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>I am making no moral judgement here

You talk with seeming disgust about sex, I think you are.

>And allowing stigma to influence public policy decisions is harmful to the far greater majority

Yes, because if there is one thing straight people are compared to gay men it's stigmatised.

>Hiding details about outbreaks to avoid offending protected classes

The information isn't hidden - it's on the front page of BBC News in the UK where the disproportionately higher cases for gay men is. It's just unlike you they're aware that it's not a gay plague

Here's Reagan's press secretary laughing and joking about "the gay plague" when only a few hundred had died, you homophobic ghoul

https://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9828348/ronald-reagan-hiv-aids

>It was the same with the aids epidemic, the gay community ignored/denied/downplayed the demographic localization of HIV but the truth was that at it's height if you were not a gay male the epidemic was effectively irrelevant to your life.

There are a hell of a lot of people - and a hell of a lot of people who have sadly died - who would be very surprised to hear this. It's a pretty accepted view by those that study the AIDS epidemic that calling it a gay plague caused massive problems for people who weren't gay and contracted HIV.

Singling out gay men for what you have decided are immoral behaviours is exactly why there is a stigma around HIV and why people continue to fail to seek treatment.

If the close contact during sex is a good way to get infected then it makes sense that a group that are largely cut off sexually from the rest of the population would see it first.

I think this information is from the UK where MSM are more likely to be engaged with their sexual health (ie get tested more often) than the population generally

"the performance can be close to par with native apps"

That has not been my experience with any electron app. They are dog slow across the board

No. State school. Shit area.

It's rarely seen in normal society as well. I really don't understand where this person is coming from.

It doesn't just assume knowledge of the language though. Assuming knowledge of Applicative, Monad and Functor is fine but as the current top comment says there is a lot more than that. Most of which you wouldn't find in a normal Haskell tutorial/article

You can still do state using the state monad.

> this gives almost all of the advantages of Haskell

except one of the biggest ones - the type system. Obviously this is subjective though. Some people prefer dynamic typing :)

To be fair most of the trending github projects are libraries for use in Haskell. There are very few actual applications - there is pandoc, git-annex and hakyll and that is it.

Perhaps the reason people are not commenting on the correctness as much is that it is, broadly, correct. It's quite difficult to add to a discussion when it's already right - there's no debate to be had.

It seems, from the comments here, that speaking and donating against equal rights is a protected freedom but as soon as anyone is called out for it then that isn't allowed.

He can say what he likes, doesn't mean he isn't free from the consequences. Views that are wrong should be allowed to be held and said, but not be supported; especially by a company like Mozilla

I well reasoned, considered argument.

Unlikely nearly all the comments here.

Well when the thing they are lying about is a view which is harmful then I see no problem.

Not if I support the cause but if the cause is right.

This is also not a witch-hunt. I honestly cannot believe that people are so apathetic about equality

Sometimes you have to vote for the lesser evil. It's pragmatism. Choose between the person who will try and stop gay marriage from happening by enshrining it in law or the person who won't actively stop it (or someone who has no chance of getting in). Seems quite obvious.

Why is it that for some people political correctness - something which tries to make people respect one another more and be nice - is the devil.

You have the right to say almost whatever you want. That doesn't mean you fucking should, does it? There's a big difference between the two

I did. Perhaps I should have phrased my reply a bit better:

People who criticise another person for an act which is contentious is not going to produce a drop in market share.

Perhaps even this is not obvious enough for you. You're probably being deliberate obtuse though. The simple point is that you can't infer a technical ability from their belief on whether gay marriage is right or not.

In addition, even if these people were proven to be bad at their jobs, I doubt that would cause the drop in market share either. Three people who are not at the very top of the company are unlikely to have that effect.

But he did give money that denied people's rights, so by your (weird, wrong and stupid definition) of fascist he is one. There is no mob, there are a few people and the "demand" is worded rather weakly. I would have expected a bit more of your fascists to be honest.

It hasn't always been about religion, possibly community though.

Doing away with government marriages if it was for everyone. At the moment it is important because it has tax benefits and not having it equal makes gay people seem like second class citizens.

Because equal marriage is really, really important. When gay people are not accepted in society opposing something that would improve that greatly is a bad thing to do

I think one of the big problems is that he is head of Mozilla which has a reputation of being a do good organisation. Having someone who did bad (as some people would say) isn't really in line with that

So preventing equality is not bigotry then? I would argue that calling out something like that is noble, not fascist.

Labelling the people who criticised Eich as fascists is as bad as calling him one for his beliefs.

I don't think one person criticising another is going to cause a massive drop in market share.

You really are being a little silly

Because he actively went out to limit peoples rights. Those who are silent on the matter are not actively harming LGBT people and I think it would be known if the companies were not inclusive.

In the world of businesses (and even Mozilla) it's generally wise not to take people at face value and let their actions do their talking. So far the only action is a negative and so he is judged in the way he is.

I would also note that he does not really offer an apology for his actions, only "sorrow at having caused pain" which sounds like the bare minimum he could get away with

> by trying to shame people who prefer other tools by calling them dullards and telling them that they don't know what they are doing.

I think this a minority but I have seen this. Generally with languages that have their roots in the more science side of things there is an air of elitism. For example quite often a venn diagram is posted which implies programs (or programmers, can't remember) not made/using type systems are worse.

The Haskell community aren't too bad though

I think if he had thought better of it he would have released some sort of statement on it. Until then he actively tried to prevent equality and should be called out on it.

You may want to try cabal sandboxes. I think it's a similar idea to virtualenv in python

I would trust him, someone from Europe, over a person who has "travelled" there. You really need to live in a place to get to know it's culture at anything more that a superficial level.

At a superficial level, for example, Americans seem to believe they are better (possibly due to genetics) than others. This kind of exceptionalism/patriotism is bad.

You've mentioned yourself why this whole article and comments are bollocks. Europe is is no way homogeneous and referring to startups in "Europe" is kind of pointless.