lowiqengineer

Don’t you believe people like me are lower IQ because I got rejected from Google?

I was GT in my very mediocre public school - shit was still hard for me, academically. I got a B in calculus 2 in high school. I constantly feel limited by intelligence and social skills (which harms motivation). Most of this thread is just bragging - “dumb” people like me don’t get the benefit of the doubt and don’t receive any of the societal benefits either.

I don’t know if it is, but i fully agree if that is OPs interpretation. They don’t need any help.

> I would guess that your definition of "successful" is set unrealistically high

This might be the case. It just always gets me down when I read first author research papers written by undergrads and ivy-bound high school students that far surpass my fundamental understanding. It feels like I'm behind forever and I don't have any hope anymore because I was just born like this.

I'm honestly not even sure what makes me happy.

What do you mean by do something?

My WLB is good to great, and is for everyone in my greater organization. My problem is that I don’t get off sites to Cabo or free massages.

It was Citadel. I think Two Sigma is considered more impressive.

I’ve tried, but haven’t gotten interviews from the companies I’m interested in. I did get a offer from a hedge fund, but it was a severe lowball (50-70% of typical offers) probably due to my interview performance.

That's fair. I think what I work on is infinitely more important even though it's a piece of a larger puzzle given how rapidly we're adding to the bottom line (just look at the last earnings call - ). But those are the people that are still negotiating compensation packages of hundreds of thousands more than me, and seem to get everything through life, from Harker to Stanford to Google/Stripe to YC W20, etc.

I'd rather be like them than be considered a "blue collar engineer" as I currently am considered by my peers.

I don't think it's myopic if everyone I follow on twitter and see on instagram is getting Hawaiian offsites and European work trips at Google and Hudson River Trading while I can't even go to Seattle for our internal ML conference because it got filled up too quickly for the last 3 years or whatever.

I enjoy what I work on..I just wish I was treated more like all of my friends and former coworkers.

My resume was mostly fine even before joining fulltime.

Perhaps, but my goal is to make ~$250k a year as fast as possible. To do so at my current company would take at least 3 years and 2 promotions, whereas even James Damore was making $400k+ 4 years into his tenure. I can't get offers at trading firms, so I'm kinda SOL overall.

It's 200k, plus bonuses, plus RSU appreciation, plus savings from having a lot of needs taken care of (transportation, food, laundry, etc). A lot of them also made a bunch during their internships and got bigger signing bonuses than I did (I only graduated with around ~$40k through a handful of internships and college jobs)

People sometimes do, they just don't publicize it. It's specifically noted in the intellectual property agreement, though nobody seems to be sure why.

I've been rejected at Google and Facebook and most of HN doesn't think my total compensation is all that impressive, so, I probably don't have many options to be real with you.

> Well, I'm not sure I'd come back, actually

I’m at Amazon right now (Ads) and honestly this makes me really sad. It feels like I’m not allowed to be proud of where I work.

I’m putting in more at the start of the year to reach the cap faster.

Perhaps that’s true, but it’s apparent to me that those people are the only ones with a chance at class mobility in this country now. At this point at least, it’s out of reach for me.

That's basically my only limit. I refuse to have a lower standard of living than my parents did when they immigrated to this country. And at best, I'd save $12k more a year, which is good, but that's like half of a FANG bonus.

I'd wager with 1.5 years of experience + internships most Google/Facebook new grads have a net worth that's double or more, especially including vested RSU appreciation.

I was talking to a new grad engineer at Lyft who joined the same time I joined my company - his net worth is around $300k now not including unvested RSUs.

The limit ($19k contribution) is around 17% of my pretax, I'm just frontloading it right now. A lot of my friends put in 90-100% into their 401k because they are already wealthy.

Our compensation cycle is 1 per year, and it's unlikely to get more than a COL raise at my company unless you have top 5% performance. I've tried getting other offers but the best I've gotten is still less than Google new grad (I now have ~1 yoe)

Ive considered it. I have around a 770, but I don’t have anywhere close to 20% down on the $700-1mil condos/townhouses near by (my total net worth is only around $120k today, which is honestly pitiful).

A < 500 square foot studio. It’s close to work at least.

I already work at a FAANG, the problem is my rent is absurd (~3k all in) and I have a higher tax burden than HQ. Also I work at the FAANG that isn’t respected and pays poorly - feels like reading HN is just a series of microaggressions some days.

Yes, I think people do. I don’t get European vacations or work trips in first. I don’t get Hawaiian off sites or bonuses or a free phone or a massage. If I’m lucky I get two free drinks at the Christmas party.

Googlers know this and look down on me for being dumber accordingly.

People are never impressed when they find out where I work but always are impressed at the perks and prestige of other companies. It feels like a “normal” job, not an elite one.

And yes I have asked others...it’s important because I agree with their thought process on this.

Perhaps but in this case I turned out to correct.

I’m disgusted at myself that I can’t say something similar about my employer.

Is this the google equivalent of “I went to a school outside of Boston”?

I do work at a FANG company right now, but it’s the one people think is not full of smart engineers (as measured by labor market value)

1) I don’t hate it but I don’t love it. I don’t think it prepares me for future jobs.

2) I make about 80% of what folks down the street from me make at competing tech firms, and even with the next level promotion I’d still be at 95% or less.

3) they are fine, but not “good”. I feel like I’m not valued based on how I’m treated.

I want society to see me as valued, as measured in compensation and treatment. Currently people think of me as lesser for where I work.

I get the same number of massage credits (0) at my current job as does an electrician.