lostjohnny

> but that action alone would be enough to fire you on the spot.

They are not as strong as you think then.

In countries where there are strong work protections law striking is a right, you don't get paid for the time you don't show up at work but you can obviously convince an entire department or an entire company workforce to go on strike, without consequences.

Without it the protection is not strong, it means an entire company against the individual worker, which is obviously unfair (regardless of what you think about work protections law, Google against a single human being it's an unfair battle, that's why "strong protection" means that the worker deson't have to fight alone and can call other workers to join the fight).

> with no string manipulation or ORM

OR, another way to look at it, using MongoDB's ORM, which is quite bad if you ask me.

> That doesn't make for a good comparison, and I think you know that.

That query is not my invention, it comes directly from MongoDB documentation

If it looks bad, it means it is bad by design

https://docs.mongodb.com/manual/reference/operator/aggregati...

> I would point to MongoDB's query language

seriuosly?

    db.orders.aggregate([
       {
          $lookup:
             {
               from: "warehouses",
               let: { order_item: "$item", order_qty: "$ordered" },
               pipeline: [
                  { $match:
                     { $expr:
                        { $and:
                           [
                             { $eq: [ "$stock_item",  "$$order_item" ] },
                             { $gte: [ "$instock", "$$order_qty" ] }
                           ]
                        }
                     }
                  },
                  { $project: { stock_item: 0, _id: 0 } }
               ],
               as: "stockdata"
             }
        }
    ])

VS

    SELECT *, stockdata
    FROM orders
    WHERE stockdata IN (SELECT warehouse, instock
                        FROM warehouses
                        WHERE stock_item= orders.item
                        AND instock >= orders.ordered );

I guess the original poster is Italian...

Maybe it's about stereotypes still very strong against southern Europeans?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23718933

HN could learn a thing or two from this article.

For example stop shadow banning people without warnings, make dead posts always visible but with disabled comments, unless vouched for, make moderation visible, I would like to know why something disappeared, create public spaces to resolve disputes between moderators and users: it's easy to misunderstand something when you are from 1% SV and the other person is from a developing country, for example, moderators are wrong too, hiding mistakes is not de-escalation.

Last but not least, changing the rules around "you're posting too fast" I share my public network connection (and public IP) with tens of other people and usually can't comment because it says I'm posting too fast.

Someone could be very frustrated by this behavior and become increasingly angry, this is not good de-escalation either.

I've never seen an "I've made a mistake" here on HN for example

Or US own creations: Videla, Pinochet, Saddam Hussein, which perspective make US one of the major threat to World's safety.

or Franco and the regime of the colonels in Greece, because dictatorship is not a communist's only trait, as US like to think.

But I think Putin is different

He s not crushing only his own people, like those dictators did, he acts like the leader of an international terrorist organization with full power over an entire nation resources (from energy to army, from media to industry) and when he's not directly in charge, he puts one of his puppets there, changing the constitution or bending the law if he needs it, and that's why I think he's more dangerous.

Putin is a Trump who made it.

> One sleepy little town basically shut down between 12:30 and 14:30 every day

That's not been true since the 80s.

You're probably confused by the fact that some services shut down at lunch time (service facing offices like banks) for historical reason, we in Italy have a very rigid system of contracts that regulate each category of work in a very precis way, including work hours.

If banks want to stay open at lunch time, they'll have to change the national contract.

But if you go to an hospital or a bar or a restaurant or an IKEA branch, you'll find people working hard even at lunch time.

Source: born, raised and still living in Italy since 43 years ago.

> How do you get anything done??

I don't know, maybe We are smarter than the rest of the World... :)

Getting things done is not about the time you put in them, it's about the effort.

As a very adult Italian, I prefer to eat a sandwich (usually 'panino con affettati') and go home early, than waste 2 hours eating with other people, in expensive places, not so great food that barely resemble real Italian food.

And I live in Italy.

> We've banned this account for using HN primarily for political and ideological battle

WHAT?

FSF means Free Software Foundation, Free as in Free speech, IT IS POLITICAL!

What the heck are you talking about?

> Society is entering a world of nonconformity

When nonconformity is the norm, it becomes conformity

> what does being right accomplish?

Not being wrong.

Which is often bad, sometimes very bad, like "you're dead" bad or "you killed somebody else" bad.

Being right is just like epidemic prevention or vaccines: if they work, you don't even notice.

> What I do know is that "It's been like this for decades" is never an appropriate defense.

You know what?

He got better with time, given where he came from.

So he's still better than the majority of puppets lurking in his background to find something to use against him.

For example: he never threatened anybody nor accused anybody falsely nor asked for somebody to be "removed".

> Being judged and vilified by people who don't know you is what happens to public figures

Nope.

I don't judge and vilify people that I don't know, I judge their opinions.

In this case Stallman's opinion were completely rational, he's been judged for who he is and his past, by people that didn't know him super charged by people who knew him and held a grudge against him.

It's called character assassination.

Or mob.

> If your behavior brings disrepute on the organizations you represent

Is the FSF stops bringing dispute, it becomes useless.

If FSF doesn't challenge the status quo or what's considered taboo, what is it good for?

It's not a marketing agency that need people to buy the product even if the product sucks, it's a no profit org that needs people believing in the cause, especially when it's hard.

What if someone can't?

What if they are both equally bad?

What I think it doesn't matter.

He was arguing using the science of the time.

Darwin believed that "males are more evolutionarily advanced than females" and manyany anthropologists contemporary to Darwin concluded that "women's brains were analogous to those of animals," which had "overdeveloped" sense organs "to the detriment of the brain"

Should we judge them for being wrong at the time, without knowing it?

Nope.

And not even badly documented, let alone well documented.

I do!

Thomas Lord, Arch creator and former FSF employee

> p.s.: In the closet-sized "office" Bushnell, McGrath, and I shared for a time we did have some spider plants as part of a running silly joke. They did not actually scare RMS away OF COURSE and he usually had helpful criticism and advice of our efforts, from my point of view.

https://archive.is/7qepC#selection-1591.1-1591.277

> You, and many like you, are basically demonizing all men in MIT

I was just being sarcastic and you are just overreacting.

If asking a girl out is sexual assault, then all men are sexual predators.

It's true even for girls, they ask men out, it's 2019 and I'm 43, I've seen much worse in my life than "asking a girl out".

BTW, they can still say no, it's ok to say no.

> > Richard Stallman told me of his misery and that he'd kill himself if I didn't go out with him. > I declined further contact.

This is not sexual harassment, there is no allegation, it was never filed.

This story was never confirmed, BTW.

But even if it happened, what's so bad about it?

That he's weird?

When it happened to me I offered support, I did not go to the police.

> but that the people in question do not want to come forward.

Stallman is not a well know powerful man that could pose a real danger to anybody.

He's not an Epstein that traffic girls.

> He made overt sexual advances to women at work [in the late 1990s at VA Linux

Who didn't in the 90s?

There were literally cocaine addicts running companies, snorting from their desks at the 24th floor in Manhattan and we are talking about Stallman making an alleged third hand advance?

Of course him being him, not Brad Pitt, and coming out weird when he tries to be friendly, scared women away.

Meanwhile the like of Epstein trafficked girls and were considered "highly respectable business men" because they dressed sharply, were good looking and moved a ton of money, the kind of money that could buy you an island.

While Stallman slept on a matress in his office .

It is hard to recall how bad the 90s were for those who never lived them, how bad the influence of the new born "global style industry" was and how not conforming to some social norm made you automatically an outcast.

There were movies like "Thrashin'" were the best skaters in the world (Caballero, Tony Hawk, Tony Alva) played the bad boys and the good guy of the time was Josh Brolin [1]

Now think about Josh Brolin in the 90s, the epitome of what a man should be according to showbiz industry targeting young people, and imagine being Richard Matthew Stallman.

Hell, there were even movies about nerds and they were all depicted as ugly, mean and with a bad hygiene.

Of course Snotty became my favourite!

[1] the good guy according to 80s and 90s culture http://ingridrichter.info/cheese/graphics/T/thrashin/brolin_...

> I still believe, perhaps naively, that it's possible to maintain not-normal opinions without causing pain to the people around you

It depends on other people around you, too!

If people around me are scumbags and they get offended for reminding them what they are, I think it's alright.

> a Googler calling out Stallman

Isn't it stange that the other one calling out Stallman, Matthew Garret, is a Googler too?

source: Google employee. FTFY!

That Google, the Ad company threatening user's privacy, abusing user's rights, collecting user's data.

The company fined for 5 billion dollars in an anti trust case in EU.

The company behind YouTube, fined for 170 million dollars for collecting kids data [1]

The company behind Chrome, that recently proposed a change to stop ad blocking extensions from working (did I say they sell ads?)

AFAIK Stallman never worked for or at any company the like of Google.

Neither did Eben Moglen, who still offers pro bono legal support for free software at the Freedom law center, which he founded.

For those that do not know him, Moglen was member of Philip Zimmermann's (PGP creator) defense team.

Strangely enough, he was another target of Garret, a couple years ago he declared him "no longer a friend of the FSF".

He was already working for Google.

[1] https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/youtube-ftc-fine-170-m...

> war monger

war mongers become war mongers one drone at the time.

> The four that you know may not have attracted RMS' attention

so he can control himself.

He doesn't just throw himself at every woman that comes around.

Just like the rest of us...

> It's up to the alleged victims to go public

Fact is, I don't think they even exist.

Not because victims do no exist in general, but because at worse RMS has been weird or inappropriate, but dangerous, threatening, scary or violent?

It never happened.

I'm sure.

> You're attacking her in much the say way

I'm not attacking her, but I understand why you think that.

Where do you think you might find sexism, misogynism, unsafety, threatening situations, in the US department of defence working with military personnel or in the office of RMS at MIT?

I think the odds are all in favour of the military, but this girl is happy to build drones for the military, while supporting the idea that RMS is a toxic man that need to be removed immediately.

Isn't that amusing?

If I didn't already know, I would have wanted to know about it!

> You're arguing that defending a statutory rapist isn't supporting pedophilia

Wrong.

I'm saying that Stallman never defended a statutory rapist.

He tried to defend the protest from the backlash of using the wrong terms and a dead person from an accusation that is hard to prove anyway now that he's dead.

Statutory rape is just a safer option given the circumstances.

BTW defending a statutory rapist is not supporting pedophilia or any attorney who defended an alleged (there is no official accusation yet) statutory rapist was also supporting pedophilia?

> for an autonomous ground vehicle is "help the government kill people"?

That's what drones are for...

And I've never said that either.

I've only said that she works there.

> I'm thoroughly confused.

You are indeed.

> Drawing parallels between the way you attack the character

I didn't attack the character, I only portayed the character for who she is.

No judgment attached, just the crude reality: she builds weapons for US military and uses a very aggressive and dehumanizing vocabulary.

I would never use "remove" when referring to another human being, alive or dead.

> It was my understanding that Stallman was imploring people to use a more accurate term in describing his friend's actions because he felt the other term invoked harsher connotations

He was concerned that the term "sexual assault" would be disputable by critics.

because legally and in layman's terms has a completely different connotations (people associate assault with physical violence, the law doesn't)

> What does any of that have to do with what she said?

I think it's interesting that a person who would like to "remove" other people ends up building weapons instead of schools for refugee kids.

> Rape implies... rape. He is just accused of removing a condom

Was Stallman right (again!) when he wrote

    "I think it is morally absurd to define 'rape' in a way that depends on minor details such as which country it was in or whether the victim was 18 years old or 17,"

?

Of course he was!

According to Swedish law, that's rape.

Welcome to the rest of the world, where the US laws do not apply.

> Wasn't that due to the (rightful imo) fear of being sent to the US?

Still escaped and blamed "feminists"

Would Epstein be right to escape because US wanted to prosecute him on the account of trafficking young girls?

> Not having committed a crime is your bar for "a good man"?

Usually, yes.

> people can be unfit for their job even without having committed crimes

But this is not the case.

> caught and found guilty, to be more precise

We're all innocent until proven guilty.

It applies to me, to you and to everybody else.

> Especially in leadership roles.

Take this as an unwanted advice: a leader is someone who would never fuck you in the arse to save theirs.

Stallman would never fuck you in the arse.

Proof is he's been fucked by those wanting to silence him, but has no bad feelings against who did it.

This is being fit for leadership roles in my book.