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Agree, as long as models are interchangeable, it doesn't make sense to be locked into a single lab's managed agent platform. You probably want to swap between models and own the agent state.

https://github.com/omnara-ai/omnara - this is a self hostable agent API that I'm working on. It stores the state of all agents in a postgres db you can easily query, rather than a local json file or sqlite file per agent.

I can use the same system prompt and tools to Pi or OpenCode or Codex, so I'd say they're independent of the harness.

From these comments, it seems like people still don't understand what harnesses are... The point is you shouldn't build a harness, you should use a harness and change its system prompt, the tools it has, MCPs it has, give it skills, etc, to make it work for your usecase. You aren't "building a harness on top of pi" if all you're doing is the above. You're just using the harness to connect different things to the LLM.

Just fixed this issue! Seemed to occur on web, thanks for reporting this!

Yep, you're right, we don't have E2EE period (and we don't claim to have it anywhere), for the reasons I mention above (our cloud sandbox agent and voice agent need plaintext messages, so we'd need access to the keys, which defeats the purpose of E2EE). Apologies for the incorrect wording!

We have voice support for this exact reason! Not sure if I'd want to enable people vibe coding from their car dashboard xD

Haha glad to hear that you used Omnara before. In the old version, we were directly parsing the terminal output, which was really hard to maintain. But that meant you could use the Claude Code CLI directly in your terminal, and have the same session appear in your phone.

Now we use the Claude Agent SDK (basically a headless version of Claude Code), and we make our own UI for laptop and mobile. This is way easier to maintain than the previous solution we had. You can import Claude Code CLI sessions into Omnara, but you cant see a 1:1 realtime Claude Code CLI session in Omnara anymore. But we think that a GUI is a better experience than the CLI anyways for managing a bunch of agents.

Haha yeah, we love happy, seems like you guys are popular in this thread :)

This sounds solid, similar stuff to what we do! Sounds like this setup gets you most of the way there. We also have a mobile app + notifications. And I haven't tried using a coding voice agent via MCP, I'll try that out soon!

You should be able to use Omnara for that use case, unless I'm misunderstanding something

Thanks!

Awesome, that's the exact reason we built this!

Is it possible to completely disable or not use the remote sandbox features? I would never use them and would prefer my code stays on my device.

Yes, the remote sandbox feature is disabled by default, and you have to manually enable it for the syncing to start.

For those of us that are using subscriptions, does it show our remaining usage? I would hate to run out of tokens in the middle of a session.

Currently Omnara doesn't show your usage limits, you would have to check that at claude.ai. I'll look into add that though.

One feature of the CC TUI I sorely missed on mobile is the ability to look up and directly reference files via “@“. Is any functionality like this planned?

Yes, this exists in Omnara already!

Are there any plans to offer a cheaper tier for those of us that just want to run this on our own machines?

That's a good idea, we'll think about doing this where we don't offer sandbox + voice, and just have the messaging service.

Looking into this, will fix this soon! GitHub auth should be working on the web app, if you try there (assuming you got this error on mobile). You can continue to use Omnara normally without signing into GitHub, you just won't be able to use the cloud syncning feature til you auth with GitHub.

Replying to your latest comment here:

What do you mean by syncing? Happy coder syncs sessions between all my happy coder clients. I can even see in real time how happy coder in my browser's conversations progress as well as on my phone, in parallel.

Omnara also displays realtime conversations between all Omnara clients. What I mean by syncing is syncing your conversation and code changes to a cloud sandbox, which is useful if you're using Omnara on your laptop and you close your computer (as explained in the original post). If you run your agents on a persistent cloud VM, then this is less of a value add.

I can voice chat with Happy coder.

We use https://docs.livekit.io/agents/ which runs the voice agent in the cloud (to enable the above use case, and a better experience when you're using your phone when it's off), whereas I believe happy runs a client-side voice agent.

I mean messages drop or stall, or syncing doesn't work, or I can't get through setup at all. But I'm sure all these solutions have improved greatly since I've tried them, I tried these things much earlier on. If hapi works perfectly for you, then maybe Omnara wouldn't be much of a value add. Are there any pain points you face with hapi?

Thanks! And yeah it's definitely something we think about very often, we're coming up with ways to differentiate ourselves.

Two of the main feature's we're investing heavily into are remote sandboxes + syncing, and voice agent support, wouldn't work with E2EE.

We use the Claude Agent SDK and the Codex App server, which makes it easier to maintain (we used to parse out the literal terminal when we first launched, which was not maintainable - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44878650). There's also ACP (https://agentclientprotocol.com/get-started/introduction) which we'll probably integrate eventually, which should make it easier to manage all the harnesses.

Yes, they have E2EE, but it comes with some limitations in the features they're able to provide.

I haven't tried out https://hapi.run/, but I've tried similar things and in my experience Omnara is much more reliable than the other solutions, as well as I enjoy the UX of Omnara much more. Give it a try, it's one command to set up and the free tier gives you everything that the paid tier does, so you can decide if you like it before paying!

We think that terminal interfaces, especially on mobile, are not going to be the way people end up interacting with agents in the long run, which is a big reason we built Omnara.

And Omnara chats are stored in our DB, which is how we're able to enable our voice agent, cloud syncing, and ability to see all your chats while your machine is offline. Basically anything you see in the web and mobile clients is being proxied/persisted through our server, until you delete the chat.

Voice input + output sounds gimmicky (as I admit in the post), but it's quite useful for mobile coding. It's not as trivial as just printing out whatever Claude Code outputs.

"Claude Code will help you set this up using tmux" - I don't think that you can connect to tmux sessions running in Claude Code/Codex remote VMs using their mobile apps. Their mobile apps don't provide a terminal emulator afaik

Thank you! Yeah, a big selling point of Omnara is that it "just works." Let me know how it goes!

I'd say to try it out first, and then let me know what you think! And a product doesn't have to be technically sophisticated to be funded by YC (although I would say that Omnara is a pretty technical product, which you'll see if you try it out)!

The idea is that if agents are coding for you, there's no need to be at your desk to manage them. I think the case for managing coding agents without being at your desk is becoming stronger as agents become more autonomous.

And for your sidenote, we'll see when Anthropic/OpenAI release something similar. For now it's pretty useful, and we're making it better every day.

They currently don't have the ability to use a local session from your phone, and they only have voice input, not voice input and output for completely hands free usage.

Yeah that makes sense. I personally feel like the tailscale + terminal emulator solution is pretty limited compared to Omnara's interface, and there's also 0 hassle of maintaining anything on your own with Omnara. You can try out Omnara for free, and see if you like it before paying! 10 sessions can get you pretty far, and there's no limit on the session length.

We're a very complex Claude Code wrapper :) Try it out and lmk what you think!

Haha thanks! It was fun to shoot :)

Yeah, this looks great for OpenCode (which we're planning on adding soon!), but I personally have Claude Code and Codex subscriptions, which Omnara supports. We also support syncing your local session to a cloud sandbox to continue your session, and in the cloud sandbox, we provide LLM tokens. As well as our voice agent costs are covered by us.