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Because you own NFTs, you are now incentivized to talk up NFTs, which have zero fundamental value.

Vox also tried too hard to stick to a coherent narrative that fit their own political outlook, which is normal for journalism but I think falls apart even more quickly when you try to provide context over time.

I think this is a take that gets missed a lot.

Reportedly, they can only make 1 million of them this year. Apple has close to a billion customers. It only has to be useful for 0.1% of them at this stage.

It’s certainly good enough for that.

I don’t think it works like this - the current AVP is incredible, but I can’t think of a single friend who I’d actually recommend it to.

I’ve demoed it to (regular non-tech) people over FaceTime, and they are completely blown away by it.

I don’t think you need much feedback to know what needs to happen.

- it needs to be lighter - it needs to be cheaper - it needs more apps

Apple will sell every AVP they can make because the can’t make very many of this current design. I don’t think anything will be delayed.

It’s not a gaming headset. For this, Quest 3 is a better choice.

Irreverent and accurate. Not a bad take. It’s pretty obviously true that we don’t know what how the use of this device is going to unfold, and they lightly make fun of that fact without being unduly cynical.

Right - so 2560 x 1440 is the default for a 5K studio display or old 5K iMac. 1920 x 1080 is the default in MacOS for a physical 4K monitor.

Note that these numbers are half the actual pixel count in each dimension because MacOS defaults to assuming the display is a 2x Retina Display.

So, if you choose the 1920x1080 option you get what I see using my actual 4K display. It also avoids the downsampling, because the stream itself is 4K and so is sharper.

I don't know why Apple set the default for 5K downsampled.

Hasn't it? Are you head of a consumer sentiment research company with access to an unpublished report?

Do you hear yourself?

There’s nothing ‘vengeful’ about not trusting a news outlet that has lost its objectivity.

As for the rest of your comment - the logic simply doesn’t follow unless you believe axiomatically that the NYT is trustworthy and everyone else is not.

It’s well documented that the NYT is agenda driven and pushes its own positions over objective reporting:

When the New York Times lost its way https://econ.st/4bG2Kf8

Maybe - although I watched that one and was ok.

No because the review is a dishonest hit piece. I’m super sensitive to nausea in VR to the point that I’ve had to drop out of an interview process to work in the space in the past.

Not one other reviewer has mentioned nausea, and I’ve been using AVP since Friday and not experienced it once. I was very concerned I’d have to return it and might never be able to use such a device.

I don’t know what’s going on with this piece but them reviewer has gone out of his way to exaggerate or even manufacture negatives and fill the piece with them.

What a hit piece. He’s absurdly negative right from the beginning. I guess we can see why Apple declined to provide them an early review unit.

The device is not perfect, but this ‘review’ borders on absolute bullshit.

Harping on about ‘vision bros’ and ‘scaring children’ and the ‘games aren’t fun’.

They clearly have an agenda.

Why not just buy a Mac? It really does sound ridiculous to ‘justify’ the price this way.

Are you using it at 4K, or in downscaled 5K (which I agree is disappointing)?

The 3GS was light years better than the original iPhone, and by that time it had things like actual GPS, the App Store, and usable mobile data. The original iPhone was seriously limited.

Ironically many of the things you are identifying about the iPhone are also true of the Vision Pro - for example the eye and hand tracking that enable gestures that actually work in an incredibly intuitive way is a game changer - including literally pinch to zoom.

I think there are other things you are seriously underestimating about Vision Pro - for example the quality of movies, including 3D, is better than anything I've ever seen in any home, movie theater, or other headset. It's simply stunning.

I also don't think a lot of people have tried thing like using FaceTime with the first person camera. I have, and it's an incredible way to give a presentation or explain things to people even if they are using a phone at the other end. Incredibly natural.

There really are as many steps forward, if not more so with the Vision Pro than with the iPhone.

It is for me. However it wasn't in its default configuration, where it was actually downscaling a 5K display to 4K. When I changed the display settings on the Mac to actually 4K it got a lot clearer.

Not sure why the huge screen is relevant. I definitely sometimes prefer to have what amounts to a large display further away, rather than a small display up close. I don't see why you'd make it bigger than your FOV.

2+ hours, yes. My sessions with it have been 2-3 hours, with short breaks for bathroom, refreshments, etc. within that session, and a longer break between sessions. A couple of 2-3 hour sessions in a day is reasonable (and I've done it). I wouldn't want to wear it all day.

The article was written last year.

The scenario here is that people are believing this article, which is simply incorrect.

And yet he's just wrong. AVP does do a good job of mirroring a single 4K display.

It doesn't do any more than that, not multiple displays, and although it will do a 5K display, it doesn't do it well. However for the one thing they claimed it could do, it works as advertised.

Doesn't seem as though he's produced any new material since receiving it.

Ah - fair enough. It sounded like it was one of the reasons he was interested in it.

Agreed - lots of pros. Not sure 'cons' is the right word, since there is no competing product, but I wouldn't recommend it to just anyone.

I'm not sure why you'd draw that conclusion. I overheard a random group of people talking it at the dog park yesterday morning. Then I had breakfast with a friend today who isn't in tech at all, who does corporate conflict resolution, and he asked me if I'd tried a demo. Two other friends, also in no way connected to tech asked me about it and I did a demo to them over FaceTime.

I think if you personally are ignoring it, you probably don't notice how much other people aren't.

That said, I can't think of any of my friends who I would recommend to buy one at this stage, but I see Apple having no trouble selling as many as they can make.

True - I just found it surprising that someone bought it and was then disappointed that it didn't do something that was never suggested it would do.

They may not have been the first in the category, but those products were arguably a generation behind what apple introduced. Fitbit in particular was like comparing a flip phone to an iPhone.

The Apple Watch was 2 years behind other smartwatches? How so?

Yeah. It’s weird. Even the analysis of passthrough is so off. If I look out of my window with AVP on, it’s obvious that I’m looking at a comparatively low res screen, but if I look at digital content, passthrough seems perfect because it’s not in my fovea, and given that the point of the device is to interact with digital content, passthrough is definitely at the level of being good enough.

Blink works great. Not as a local terminal, but it’s very good for remote shells.

Apple only ever promised it would mirror one 4K display. They announced that clearly when they introduced it.

It does that as well as the promised, but nothing more.

“friend of iFixit Karl Guttag has a blog post explaining why using the Vision Pro as a replacement for a good monitor is “ridiculous.”

…

This, says Karl, makes for a virtual Mac display with low enough PPD to see individual pixels—not quite the standard desktop display”

So rather than just trying it for themselves and realizing Karl is wrong, they quote this uncritically?

For what it’s worth, there’s nothing wrong with Karl’s math. He’s just not taking into account the fact that the Vision Pro isn’t mounted in a fixed position and that your brain integrates information over time.

In practice it certainly is as clear as my 4K display when I use it for mirroring.

It’s definitely not as good as a 5K studio display, but then Apple never makes that claim.