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keo92znxon Peter Thiel’s Money Talks, in Contentious Ways. But What Does He Say?

He made comments outside his paper that women just aren’t as good at men or more of them would find satisfaction in this

I’m not linking it because it’s not like this is an esoteric notion that requires extreme vetting

It’s one a-hole who in the big picture isn’t important to anyone but himself. Something I think this forum and society as a whole have lost sight of

I have my own take on it. Add some variables he excluded and his whole thesis goes to shit. But it still says nothing but math is like English; it can be made to produce a result that tells whatever story we want

Some folks seem to think every formula peddles some inherent truth of reality, which is nonsense

keo92znxon Peter Thiel’s Money Talks, in Contentious Ways. But What Does He Say?

Tbf this Hacker News, a casual social forum.

I’m indifferent to concerns about rigor in my comments. Also I’m on a phone and half interested, passing the time on a bus.

keo92znxon Peter Thiel’s Money Talks, in Contentious Ways. But What Does He Say?

Agreed. Being good at math or some other technical topic doesn’t mean you’re not still a human who is easily emotionally manipulated.

Science relies on bad experiments. But of course folks like Thiel and Demore act like they got it right and can just keep on doing, cause of a sense of privilege.

Thiel isn’t doing the work himself. That’s impossible. But rules should be avoided. Relies on society to collectively provide, but says society isn’t allowed to expect anything back.

IMO, those sorts seem to be especially easy to manipulate emotionallly. Patted on the back all their lives, but if you should try to stop them they get salty. Forgetting that they’re still one of many.

Look at all the “anarchist” gamers and hacker types with no identity otherwise. Lots of dismissive rhetoric towards women and minorities, based solely on emotional opinion

They grew up with that “on in the background” and just kept tinkering and building on their things, otherwise, while the world (mom) made sure they had food and clean laundry.

So the rest of the world should be like mom to these emotional babies.

They may not go to church, and may now be anti-God, but what patterns were embedded in their youth that are not recallable verbatim, but see the world through same as usual expectations.

There is so much we don’t know still about the human brain and consciousness.

keo92znxon Peter Thiel’s Money Talks, in Contentious Ways. But What Does He Say?

His manifesto alone paints such a picture. No anecdotes from others necessary.

One coder with no unique personal success outside being hireable by Google painting the majority of the species as lesser, with cherry picked stats that ignore human history and social trends?

Edit: I don’t care about what numbers he put in his memo. It’s the idea of peddling such a thing in the first place by someone who has no authority

Saying math says we should behave a certain way is enabling authoritarian rule, IMO

Demore forgets that he’s one of billions. He can think what he wants using his numbers, but it’s not iron clad and means nothing given that the data is generated in a highly curated social structure

It’s less “his math is off” and more “why do I care who this Demore fellow is? Because he has math? Meh lots of people do. It’s not very interesting math and theory.”

That’s not likely to connect with this crowd.

Pretty self-aggrandizing and full of shit, IMO. Not something a “place of business” as Google has painted itself in these situations, should support