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That’s not even close to a valid analogy and I think (and hope) you know that. Because if you don’t… oof. You have a lot to learn.

> I can only conclude

Well, given that you are selfishly and arrogantly trying to set universal boundaries on what constitutes labour and effort, and what qualifies as “work” based on your feelings alone, then it seems fairly on brand for you to go about assuming things about people you don’t know from atom.

So you do you.

Go have fun bringing other people’s work down so you can feel better about yourself.

No, you did not make the pizza, but you have the wherewithal to order it, to think of what you wanted. You don’t get to claim you made the pizza, but you made the order for your pizza dinner.

And honestly, if you have any experience at all working with AIs, then you should know very well that it is not anything like ordering a pizza.

I can guarantee you the author did work on it, plan it, rethought parts of it, specced it out, tested it, and worked a lot to make it come to life. So no, you wouldn’t have made the pizza because all you had to do was order it, but you cannot just say “write a GUI for the ZX Spectrum” and wait at your table for it to come toasty out of the oven.

Bad analogy. Bad way of thinking. Bad behaviour. All on you.

So planning, debugging, speccing, thinking, rethinking, designing, etc… do not count as labour?

Please, do give me a list of what constitutes labour.

> it’s reading out your desired specs to a team member who does the actual engineering work

Congratulations, you just discovered ”delegating”. I hope you don’t have anyone reporting to you at the moment because if this simple concept sounds demeaning to you… wow.

> but yeah "labour of love"... tsk tsk tsk...

What precludes this from being a labour of love, exactly?

> it feels hollow to me

I don’t think there’s ever been a more accurate and appropriate moment to say: that sounds like a you problem.

If you think computer science is only about manually writing lines of code yourself then goodness me you have SO MUCH to learn.

> Was this, then, done to impress others rather than enrich the coders skills and experience?

So coding is only valid when it “enriches the coders skills and experience”? How do you define those? Better yet, WHO is defining those? Are you so narrow minded and decidedly contrarian that you simply refuse to think of any other reason the dev might’ve done this for? I don’t wanna tell you you need to touch grass but goodness me you really ought to consider opening your mind to the fact that you are not the centre of the universe.

> The futuristic equivalent of pressing the “demo” button on old electronic keyboard and pretending to play

These two things do not equate in the slightest and the fact that you think they do is utterly depressing.

What do you even mean by this?

Can’t things be made just for fun? Can’t people be proud of things they did for enjoyment only?

How is displaying a project on your GitHub “vanity”? Why shouldn’t they display it proudly? Why shouldn’t they put it on their resume?

Precisely! Anyone who knows the hardware should understand how interesting this project is, regardless of how it came to be.

It’s just fun.

You either replied to the wrong comment or didn’t and proved my point exactly: some people like the technical low level approach, others prefer the higher level architectural work.

There’s space for both and there’s a need for both.

> Instead I hear about the great time Claude had being prompted to do it.

I don’t think anyone is talking or even considering how much fun Claude had coming up with the code for this.

Fun is subjective. “A great time” is subjective. The author could have had bucket loads of fun discussing, architecting, rethinking, planning and bringing the project to life through Claude. Or they could have had a miserable time with Claude but just wanted to see the thing working. Maybe both? Maybe neither?

The point is: chill. AI is nothing more than a tool. A tool that requires an operator. And like every other tool in human history, it can produce bad results or wonderful results, it all depends on who’s operating it and how much domain knowledge they have.

Things aren’t so black and white. Open up your mind a little (crazy concept, I know) and just let people enjoy things.

Not all AI-assisted projects are AI-slop. The fact that you think so only tells me that you’re deeply insecure about your knowledge of a subject that you’re interested in.

I think you severely lack in domain knowledge if you think “nothing else than a bit of prompting went in to this”.

> But that brings me to the second half of the argument: I think we upvote this article in large part because of the historical association of a "crazy 8-bit software project" with "something that took perseverance and skill and our community should reward it". That link is severed now.

There’s the problem: you are assuming everyone else thinks in elitist terms like you. It still is a crazy 8-bit software project. It still rather impressive and fun to see.

Your “historical reason” reads a lot more like whining than anything else and it does come across as a display of insecurity.

AI is just a freaking tool. The dev used to tool to bring his vision to life. That’s the extent of it. Stop making such a fuss over something that quite literally was just made for fun.

Let people have fun in peace. Let people enjoy things in peace.

> If the author didn't do this for themselves - to learn, to show off their skills - then why bring it to life?

Why not?

What if the person just wanted to see if it could be done and how it would look like, but wasn’t interested in the nitty-gritty bits in between?

There’s so much elitism and “you can’t sit with us” energy here that I feel like I just lost 4 decades of my life just reading this—and not in a good way.

Yeah, there certainly is AI slop. But there’s also very good uses of AI. So how about we stop shaming people for just building things they wanted to build using the tools at their disposal?

> But now, it isn't, so is it still something we ought to celebrate?

Why isn’t it? Don’t “having an idea and acting on it” count anymore? You guys seem so utterly insecure it’s depressing.

> If you've never done anything for yourself, usually with your own hands, you don't understand the pleasure and satisfaction that comes from doing it.

That’s an absurd thing to say.

Doesn’t matter what “AI” feels or doesn’t feel. AI is a tool. You can derive as much pleasure from having an ideia, planning it, working on it from a higher level, and seeing it come to life as you do when you get down and dirty with it and do it from the low level up.

Let’s talk like adults here. Please.