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kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
You're the third person who mentioned this, so we'll be sure to add pricing to our landing page... Sorry about that!
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
I can't say for sure, but this may very well be the first YC company to offer a VST :D
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Very much agreed! Our goal is to facilitate that fun and creativity that comes from playing with samples :)
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
I'm not sure if you had the chance to read our post, but one of our core insights is that very idea. Specifically, that words aren't always the best way to communicate what you need when writing music, and so our new product (the Infinite Sample Pack) enables folks to create new sounds without the need for text.

Also, it will be a real disappointment to Diandre when I tell him that his years of touring and releasing 100+ songs don't amount to him being a professional musician.

kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Thank you for your insight! We absolutely understand the desire to write your own patterns and melodies. From the very beginning we made sure to support one-shots so that folks like you can load them in to their sampler of choice and write whatever they desire. Our demo videos are focused on loops mostly because we want to keep things simple for the casual observer.
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Thank you for the catch! We'll make the change
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Absolutely! We couldn't agree more with your analogy
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
That would depend on what Jukebox2 ends up being :P
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Thank you so much! Yes, this is a great application of AI. We'll be adding that functionality in soon, but in the meantime you might be interested to learn about the work that Izotope is doing with Ozone: https://www.izotope.com/en/learn/ai-mastering.html
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Thank you so much! We computed TAM the best way: bottom's up! We estimated the number of current musicians, the number of people we could convert into musicians, and the annual subscription price, and then we used this to compute our total TAM. If you're interested to learn more and apply this kind of thing to your own work I recommend this video from SlideBean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_RMTC2YmXY&ab_channel=Slide...
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Hell yeah, thank you for your support!
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Thank you for sharing! Our goal is to enable musicians to get their ideas out more quickly than they ever could before. Inspiration can be fleeting, and we hope that our tool and tools like it can enable everyone to seize those opportunities to write a piece of music that they are proud of.
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Also, you've got a new subscriber :)
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Wow, thank you so much for the in-depth landing page and product feedback! We absolutely agree that this technology can be used to enable people who haven't previously considered themselves to be musicians to write music. While we currently require that you use our tool with a DAW the next step is to enable full track creation all within our tool.

Also, I love your suggestion for humming and then using that audio as input to the AI. Our text-to-sound product (called The Forge in-app) does actually support you uploading your own audio and then you can add text and other prompting to modify it! I wouldn't say that particular functionality is fully developed yet, but your point is super valid since many musicians communicate rhythms and melodies to each other by imitating instruments with their voice.

kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Thanks for the heads up!
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
If you write your chord progression as midi then you can run it through a plugin like Heavier7Strings (https://www.threebodytech.com/en/products/heavier7strings) and it will be able to create relatively realistic sounding guitar. I hope that helps!
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Very cool, thanks for the extra context!
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
$10/month or $100/year for unlimited downloads
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
RaveForce is awesome, you have a new GitHub star! Glicol is fascinating, but to be honest I'm not sure what the use case for writing music with code is? Please follow up since I'm curious to learn more. RAVE VST is also awesome, I played around with it a lot when it first came out.

I 100% agree with your point about Suno AI. If you're an amateur you want to be able to have the ability to control and change the output, otherwise how can you call the music your own? If you're a professional, without the ability to control you can never achieve your specific goals! This is why we feel confident in our musician-first approach.

WRT Midi generation we are absolutely considering it, but we don't think we can really offer anything unique there. We believe our ability to create natural sounding instruments is key to enabling the creation of all genres of music. With that said though, the ability to generate MIDI is #1 on our Canny board so maybe that should be next :)

Our text-to-sound model takes roughly 10 seconds to generate, and our Infinite Sample Packs are instant since we pre-compute output to hide latency.

Thank you for your thoughtful questions!

kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Thank you! There has been a lot of work on midi generation in the past and many people have gotten great results using the approach that you describe. The reason why modern music generators like ours create audio files directly is because midi can't represent all of the nuances of acoustic instruments (vocals, violin, trombone, etc). The allure of modern generative AI (diffusion networks and autoregressive models) is that they are finally capable of generating high quality audio which sounds natural.

If you're interested in really exciting work on applying AI to creating synthesizer patches, I recommend you check out synplant2: https://soniccharge.com/synplant2. Their tool can load in any audio and then create a synth patch which sounds nearly identical to the input audio.

kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Thank you so much! :)
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Thank you so much! The biggest issue with Encodec (especially the 48kHz version) is that it is very dependent on normalization. This wasn't an issue for their use case (music) since music generally doesn't contain silent portions, but not so for samples. Many oneshots and loops have a great deal of silence or very quiet portions of the waveform, which when normalized become essentially pure noise. Training our custom autoencoder to handle this issue was one of the key factors which enabled us to get such good audio quality.
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Absolutely! You can check out the many different styles in our Infinite Sample Packs. If you already have audio in the style that you want you can even upload that to our Pack Builder and get unlimited variations on it.
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
Exactly! Our next product is focused on stem separation and generation. The ability to modify these generated stems is crucial since it will enable our users to craft the song to their needs.
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
$10/month or $100/year for unlimited downloads
kantthpel··on Launch HN: Soundry AI (YC W24) – Music sample generator for music creators
It's quite true that there is a lot of excitement in this space, and that naturally comes with a lot of competitors. We were among the first movers with respect to AI tools for musicians, and we've seen that many others are having to move fast to catch up. Our unique insight is and has always been thinking about what musicians and music enthusiasts actually want, rather than blindly implementing a text-to-music model.

With respect to growth, our goal is to continue lowering the barrier to entry for people to write amazing music that they are proud of. Our initial product is focused on music samples, but by increasing the level of abstraction to remixes and then full stem generation we can literally enable more people to consider themselves to be "musicians." Adding music distribution to our platform will greatly improve virality and organic growth, since most people who make music want to share what they've made with their friends. We are confident that we can achieve our lofty goals by building a vertically integrated music creation and distribution platform.