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...he's not saying tech hiring is beyond criticism. He's saying this person's opinionated talk smacks of entitlement. Which it does when compared with the rest of the working world outside of the SF tech bubble.

6x your salary is pretty high. I've stuck to 4x personally.

I think that's kind of the point.

If you have to study for an interview, the interview is most likely not representative of real work one would find on the job.

Let's face it. "Big Co" interviewing is about passing an arbitrary bar that they have set. It's not representative of the actual work post hire.

But FB is a public company. If shareholders thought that was the case, they could vote with their dollars. Looking at the stock price, they seem to have no problem with the way FB is hiring engineers. The market is okay with it.

There's no reasonable way to say FB should have less engineers without being a high level director of the company.

That may be true. But in the end, does it matter?

Until we see someone taking market share away, I'd argue it doesn't. Facebook still retains top tier people regardless of any perceived quality problems.

Sorry you left. I just started here, and I do agree that what I feel about code quality isn't generally shared here. But as I get older, I start realizing that in the end, as long as things work relatively well at our scale and in our problem domain (we're not medical device software, we can fail) alls well.

Really? Links?

You're absolutely right. It's the people involved that make or break the codebase, and transitively, the project itself.

I could not agree with your comments more.

The more we realize that there are cultural divides other than skin color, I think we as a collective species can see that the constructs that have been used to divide us in the past are completely pointless; everyone is very different.

Most people would call me white. But I'm from the north eastern US, I'm catholic, I come from an italian background, and I speak shitty broken Spanish from growing up with a lot of cubans and dominicans. I have nothing in common with a jewish girl from LA that grew up in a family of lawyers that immigrated from Russia other than the color of our skin. And some how she and I have more in common than the black cuban kids I grew up with?

The barriers we as a people tend to see as the most divisive are generally the least divisive in practice. We just like to think that they are the most divisive because it's easy to see.

North Jersey confirming same.

Classifying Gracie Jiu Jitsu as re-brutalizing Judo isn't the term I'd use. To be completely honest, it's simply wrong to describe BJJ as such. Brutal is the last word I would use to describe it.

Jiu-jitsu lends itself much more to the preservation of the health of both combatants in a self-defense or sport scenario as compared to other martial arts. Certainly more so than striking based systems. I would argue that the main focus of any jiu-jitsu practitioner is to end the fight via choke. Look at sport jiu jitsu such as the ADCC or IBJJF. They aren't gladiatorial. The injuries suffered in these contests are as severe as those in any non-combat sport such as soccer or baseball.

MMA on the other hand is by definition violent. The connection between MMA and BJJ is of course undeniable; the fathers of modern MMA are the children of the father of BJJ. However, they are VASTLY different things.

My company did as well. We've hired about 5.

2 had 2-3 years experience post boot camp. They are excellent mid-senior devs. They are from Flatiron School.

We have hired 3 juniors straight out of camp. All are on boarding at or exceeding our expectations. 2 are from App Academy, one is from GA.

EDIT: I'm pretty certain our JRs don't make 100k.