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We also built a program that would monitor a file on a network drive and run new commands when added to it so we could eject the CD and/or show a message on demand.
Only did this within our club that made the school yearbook which had three computers over two rooms in its own lab so we didn't do anything too dangerous.
Just reread what it told me; it told me it is zero miles away from itself but it was a nonsensical query and that one should be more specific if the cities being compared are different.
> But it's clear from its responses what the assumption was: that you want to know the distance between a city and itself.
If you ask for the distance between just Boston and London, it assumes Boston, MA and London, UK just like Google does. Neither asks if I want the distance between London, UK and Boston, England. Same thing for Portland and Boston, even though Portland, Maine is much closer to Boston, MA. I think both ChatGPT and Google just assume the largest cities.
Not sure if you got my point about the list. In that situation I'd find the zero miles to be useful because otherwise I'd need to remember to exclude some entries from the list and add back those records doing the trivial transformation afterward.
Another way to think of it is if I wrote a function for you that asks if the number n is divisible by 17, wouldn't you want it to handle the trivial case of 'Is 17 divisible by 17?' over a CSV rather than excluding the trivial examples and handling them manually? Trivial case handling is important for LLMs. Is also useful if you're trying to test its logical consistency.
>The reason I think you're a LLM is that you somehow believe that knowing a distance between a place and itself is meaningful. It's still the case.
Based on my posting history (13 years) and username (real name), chances are pretty good I'm human. I mentioned my reasons; sorry I couldn't communicate it clearly enough. Very likely I will disengage from this thread now. Also, don't appreciate being called a bot; think people doing that makes Hacker News worse.
The model needs to reply with something and here it tells the user the assumptions it made. The only alternative I can think of would be to arbitrarily choose two Bostons but my guess is it is more likely that people making this request would intend to include the same location in both.
One use for ChatGPT is to give a prompt with lists of data. It is convenient if ChatGPT handles the trivial edge cases correctly so that the user doesn't need to do preprocessing.
"Can you give the distance in miles between a list of pairs of cities? Want the output formatted like this:
city a, city b, 10 city b, city c, 100 ...
The pairs of cities are:
New York City, Los Angeles
Chicago, Los Angeles
Chicago, Paris
Chicago, Boston
Boston, Boston
Boston, Los Angeles"
Response from ChatGPT:
"Sure! Here is the list of pairs of cities and their distances in miles:
New York City, Los Angeles, 2,798
Chicago, Los Angeles, 2,054
Chicago, Paris, 4,973
Chicago, Boston, 1,099
Boston, Boston, 0
Boston, Los Angeles, 2,905
Please note that these are approximate distances and may vary slightly due to factors such as route taken and Earth's curvature."
me again: if it asked you to clarify exactly which city you are referring to for each without making assumptions, making requests would be pretty tedious. Sometimes, you are processing data that starts out ambiguous to you anyway.
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>How many miles away is Boston from Boston?
>Boston is located in Massachusetts, United States, and it is approximately 0 miles away from itself. It is not possible for a city or location to be a certain distance away from itself, as it is the point of reference for measuring distance. If you are asking about the distance between two different locations both named Boston, it would be necessary to specify which two Bostons you are referring to.
Just noticed that GPT sounds a little like Jeeves.
This lets me jump back to recent tabs and I don't miss those that close on their own.
Note: if you use this and use a web-based meeting site like Google Meet, make sure you pin that so you don't get disconnected if you start browsing the web during a meeting.
I've seen reports that most people on Hacker News never or rarely comment themselves and I think StackOverflow works well for that common use case.
Ended up getting rid of it while making major changes though since the tests are flakey and hard to maintain.
This site would benefit a lot by having some example data prepopulated on the site itself. For now, copy/paste the below text and set the top-left to use commas:
California,Sacramento
Wisconsin,Madison
Georgia,Atlanta
North Dakota,Bismark
South Dakota,Pierre
Massachusetts,Boston
It didn't cause the behavior but helps bound the timeframe for the phenomena.
An article from 2002: https://www.zdnet.com/article/ive-broken-my-coffee-cup-holde...