james-bonds

> I can be true that crime is WAY down form the ~1992 peak, and that it is way up relative to 2019

Why are we talking about crime in the early 90s? The original discussion started with nonethewiser saying "Not to mention crime has been increasing..." This statement doesn't have anything to do with crime in the 90s. ceejayoz then replied that rising crime is a media narrative and brought up crime in the 90s. This is a total straw man argument. No one is asserting that crime is as bad as it was in the 90s.

I agree that crime is lower than the worst time ever in NYC. But a lot of crime is still up 20, 30, 40% over the last 12 years. I'm sorry, but that's just really bad and calling it a media narrative because crime is still down from the all time highs is misleading in my opinion.

Like is your argument really "Well crime still isn't as bad as it was in the 90s so it's ok"?

It's not just media coverage, although that is a narrative being pushed. For instance, this Bloomberg article tries to paint that narrative: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-is-nyc-safe-crime-st...

However, if we look at the NYPD data [0], you can see that rape, robbery, felony assault, burglary, grand larceny, and car theft are all up by 14.4%, 34.4%, 25%, 2.2%, 45.3%, and 52.7% respectively over the last 2 years. Over the last 12 years, rape is up 22%, felony assault is over 50%, grand larceny up 37% and car theft up 30%.

How can you look at this data and say this is just a media narrative?

[0] https://www.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statisti...