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There are two ways to mitigate this attack
- Don't use HTML mails. Or if you really need to read them use a proper MIME parser and disallow any access to external links.
- Use authenticated encryption.
1) He writes a long blog post about problems that men have, specifically, and how there is unfair treatment between sexes.
2) He also writes explicitly that bodily autonomy of women is so important to him, it might as well be called holy.
3) He has had his son circumcised.
Any two out of these three positions i could understand. All three together are... hard to rationalize.
They even have some links to suggested computers: https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/QuestionsAndAnswers#HARDW...
Still a lot of work, but not as much as creating your own distro from scratch.
That means that transparency works _for_ you, not against you.
Yes. And if more people want to become engineers, and if becoming an engineer is easier, then engineers will end up getting less money than nurses.
I mean... the more fun a job is, the more people will want to do it despite getting little money, right?
> In addition, women are usually the primary caregiver and disproportionately spend more time doing domestic labour (raising children, taking care of the home) which they are not compensated financially for.
I recall reading some statistics that (in germany) 80% of domestic spending is done by women. Seems about right.
> Women should be paid more for fewer hours in the workplace.
Uh. That's outright discrimination there. Either against men or against childless people.
There is a stack. You push values on the stack, then you call a function. The function takes its arguments off the stack, and pushes the return value(s) on the stack.
If you do not need the return value (which seems to be the case in your example) you ignore it by just removing it from the stack.
That's what the drop is for.
... is he trolling?
In my personal opinion, tests that are "non-unit" tests are still useful - testing the validity and correct functioning of larger pieces of software is a good thing, even if it does not run fast, or if the broken code is not immediately obvious.
I'd wager (a little) that if you only consider (heterosexual) couples, then you will have mostly men making more money...
Not saying that that's good or bad...
However, by default, nonsensical operations should not be possible.
This kind of encoding prevents you from making the programming error of writing to an input pin - which is technically possible, just useless.
Well, it's more physically demanding, isn't it?
But your point is that there are areas where society screws men over, and that nobody cares, right?
So... Why do you raise that point when the topic is how society screws women over?
Wouldn't it be better to improve society? In both places?
Well, for the most part, our power over our workplaces is also rather limited. True, you can leave, and go to a "different" company...
> It's fine if you disagree with that, but I will have a hard time continuing the discussion. In hindsight this assumption although already implies that properties must be "statistically independent". Thanks for pointing that out I think I've learned something.
I... think that statistical independence of human properties is a valid basic assumption.
However i think that it is worthwhile to question that assumption from time to time. Especially when, as mentioned in the article, more free societies like sweden or finland have more unequal outcomes than societies like iran (which iirc instituted a male quota for some STEM fields a few years ago).
This is a difficult topic...
And I think you are right. CS is not that special imho, and the gender imbalance should be more similar to e.g. maths.
> The term for an argument gerrymandered around the data to the degree "CS participation disparity is innate" is is special pleading.
I'm curious, though... Do you have any kind of research that would back your point up? Anything that would refute this "special pleading"?
I mean... I think you are right, but then again I (and you?) are CS experts and not experts at chemical engineering. Could it be that we underestimate the difficulties in CS, and overestimate these in chemical engineering?
Only if human properties are statistically independent.
If they are not, then a policy that depends on equality of outcome will screw someone over.
This has happened before, e.g. in medicinal research. Turns out, generalizing to the general population from a medicinal trial that consists only of men results in worse treatment for women.
It seems to me that you argue from a POV that basic human properties are statistically independent. Now... Why do you think that is so?
> But that has nothing to do with why Google has so few women engineers.
Uh. What?
As far as I can tell, it has _everything_ to do with that. These two things are so closely related i cannot fathom how you can make such a statement...
Also... You make the same point twice. To paraphrase you:
a) "academic CS is less intellectually rigorous and less hard to succeed in than chem/etc -- but there are less women in it"
b) "work as google is simply not that hard, just wiring form fields to databases -- but there are less women in it"
For both a) and b) you then point out that they are problematic and that we cannot explain them (and, for the record, I agree with you on both counts) - but they are still unrelated?
EDIT: To reiterate: I think you are right in that the gender imbalance is a problem and is hard to explain. It's just this disconnect that i don't get here...
Two minor points:
1) What is truth? How do you know whether something is true? By perceiving it? Is your perception not influenced by belief?
I'm not saying that we cannot know truth, ever. But we have to keep in mind we might be wrong, too...
2) Believing in something might _make_ it become true. Or, to put it differently: Belief may lead to actions which change reality - essentially a self-fulfilling prophecy.
GP said:
>> People can hold beliefs because they have certain consequences.
> Nearly all beliefs are of this type. I believe the Earth orbits the Sun because it's helps me predict the seasons.
I think there are a lot of beliefs that are held not because they have beneficial consequences, but for other reasons.
Religion as a belief is held by most people because they have been brought up with it. (converts nonwithstanding)
Scientific theories are believed (i.e. held true, used for explanations of reality) because they predict stuff that actually happens and can not be falsified.
Both of these are not believed primarily because their belief has actual consequences IMHO.
EDIT: I think what you're doing here is criticising A by constructing A' and arguing that it is better (by having the same consequences while being less general). That is a good way of criticising the generalization as well.