indyjoenz

XFCE has been my preferred Unix desktop for like 20 years.

Great software. Great mix of flexibility, modularity, ease of use, and good taste.

I also thank the devs.

This looks like an interesting rabbit hole. I have heard of ReGIS graphics but am not familiar with the standard implementations or the VK100 terminal. Is it widely supported?

Thanks for the heads up and interesting manual, vaxman! This might lead to some interesting possibilities/magic for a future version, or alternative drawing program.

I think the limitations of ansi.sys became the standard because it's the implementation that everyone had access to and could reference, not because it is the exact full set-in-stone canonical specification laid down by the ANSI standards committee overlords.

I think something similar applies today. Most people are using xterms or terminals that implement a large, fairly standard set of xterm and ansi escape codes (including things like Xterm 256 color, Mouse reporting, maybe RGB colors, Unicode). So that's what "modern" ANSI art can and maybe should target. At least raise the standard for terminal art beyond the 1980s IBM-PC to modern, widely implemented standards.

Then there is the problem of there being hundreds of ANSI editors and viewers that expect 16 color Code Page 437 art. Moebius (the ANSI editor) sidesteps this problem by using .utf8.ans to imply a Utf-8 ANSI, which also implies Xterm compatible escape codes (like 256 color). Right now Durdraw does not implement any file suggestions for saving, but in the future I might do that.

I'll look into -W and -H. It's probably a bug. Thanks for letting me know.

I am not sure what you mean by "doubled the default" exactly.

Oh, for WSL... You would use something like Windows terminal, and start an Ubuntu (WSL) terminal session from there. It will act similar to a Linux VM terminal, and you can download, install and run Durdraw from there.

There are currently 3 ways to set the canvas size.

1: Use the command line options -W and -H or --width and --height to set the numbers of columns and lines. run "durdraw --help" for more command-line options.

2: Check the help screen and scroll down to the "Canvas Size" section. There are keys for increasing and decreasing the canvas size.

3: You can also use the -m or --max command-line option to start the canvas size at the maximum size for your terminal window.

I will continue to work on the canvas size stuff an making it easier to customize.

I like your idea of optionally centering the canvas in the screen. Thanks for the suggestion. I might do that in a future version. (Same with the .ini file.)

You might also consider increasing your terminal font size so the canvas is not so small, and moving it around to line up with the image in the back.

I'd have to revisit it to make sure it still works well, but it tries to support a transparent terminal by default, with the --blackbg option to force a black background in the canvas.

Edit: Canvas resize keys are: esc-" insert line esc-: delete line esc-> insert column esc-< delete column

Icy Draw is a very good newschool ANSI editor, too. The developer is very skilled and he put together a great, feature rich tool in a short amount of time.

I'd love to steal some of the features from it. Icy Draw joins the many GUI ANSI editors, though (like Moebius and Pablodraw), and Durdraw tries to get away from that by operating using real escape codes and real terminals. We also seem to have a different philosophy on animation.

Thank you! Feel free to contribute patches, feedback, etc. :)

I'm glad you got it working. I'll probably work on a Docker installer in the future.

Normally, in Windows, the best way to run it in WSL. There is an issue with windows-curses that durdraw doesn't like, and keeps it from running natively in Windows (in powershell, etc) without WSL.

Yes, a tablet or phone version would need to be re-designed to be touch friendly, naturally.

Thanks for checking it out. :)

It doesn't. Thanks for the great question. However, I made another program a while back that plays GIFs and images in a text terminal similar to what you're describing (see https://github.com/cmang/gifterm), and I plan to incorporate that functionality into a future version of Durdraw.

I originally started working on Durdraw because I was trying to animate some ASCII art with Pablodraw and Photoshop, and found it incredibly tedious. I ended up making my own editor for any future animations.

Thanks! Yes, animation was one of the earliest features. It uses its own animation engine and file format (which is a gzipped JSON file), which gives the artist fine control over the timing (unlike traditional ansimation files), by giving them frames-per-second speed control and custom delays on frames. There is a video or two on youtube demonstrating this, and you can scroll down on the Durdraw homepage and readme to see examples.

I have given some thought to Android and iOS versions, and would like to make it happen, but it isn't a high priority at the moment. That is interesting that you might be interested in an Android version. Maybe sometime this year.

Edit: Just to be clear, animation does not require any programming or coding. You simply create frames, draw, switch between them, copy and edit frames, etc, like a traditional animation studio.

Thanks for taking a look. There are a few uses for a program like this in 2024.

1: Some people still make ANSI and ASCII art as a means of exploring the medium.. well, artistically. Check out https://16colo.rs/ and you will see what I mean. They showed around 30 ANSI art packs published for the year 2023. It isn't exactly the heyday of the 90s, but it's not completely dead, either.

2: Some people like to use ASCII art in text user interface programs, in README files, etc. This is probably the real modern use for a program like this.

3: BBSs aren't completely dead, either. :) See: https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/ for examples. Most of them cater to the old IBM-PC style character encoding (or some other antiquated platform) and ANSI standards, but I think there is opportunity to have modern 256 color Unicode BBSs. With social media being so problematic in 2024, why not enjoy a tried and true medium? They usually connect over the internet now, of course.

I admit, the commercial applications are limited. It's mostly just good creative or nostalgic fun.