hipsters_unite

How does this differ from Jetstrap? [0]

[0] https://jetstrap.com/

Nice one for mentioning the North! I work for a startup in Manchester and it's a great tech scene (if a bit smaller than London, naturally).

From the article: "all else held equal, the poor would rather not work than work"

I just don't buy that for a fraction of a second. So much of self-worth is tied to employment, and that's besides the creative urge that most people feel. Even if they can't use that in the workplace, I know plenty of very creative people that work lousy jobs and get their creative fulfillment else where. According to the OP, they'd stay unemployed.

Yeah, I've noticed that one as well, wasn't sure if it was intentional or a bug.

I just fail to see how it is 'dead' when all the key EU players intend to move forward with it before the elections.

Thanks, will check that out now.

Some great talks here. A question: has anybody got any good screencasts on either authentication with Ember (and a backend) and using Ember with local storage? Haven't found a huge amount online.[0] Trying to see what's workable for a PhoneGap app using Ember at present.

[0] Other than this, that is: http://vimeo.com/81960884

And a chorus of silence from the general population. The bad guys won here, no matter how upsetting it may be to the general HN crowd (at least, if I've read the mood correctly).

Right, of course I'm not against an opt-in blocklist; people should have that choice as well.

For something like a SIM, I can also see the business case - but again, that's a corporate decision rather than one that they're obliged to make by law (as they are now) which is a subtle but important distinction, as it represents the removal of choice via censorship.

My issue is with the opt-out censorship and the loud political circus that's been built up around it. It continues the same discourse of 'what have you got to hide' that the NSA business threw up, it's setting a precedent which could be misused later. Who knows if it actually would be, but waiting for the other shoe to drop is not exactly an ideal situation with any kind of censorship.

I have Java/Flash disabled by default and yet it was still able to populate a fonts list for me. Forgive my ignorance, but surely that's not possible?

Even if it's not actually the 'porn law' itself that's causing this (rather O2's blocklist it seems) - the fact is that it's the same attitudes and discourse underlying both. Both are censorship and both are maintained and supported by the government's position and policies.

Pretty much this. My old man was working with C and Assembly back in the day, I believe, and I'm an aspiring full-stack dev using Python/Ruby/JS mainly, so couldn't be more different!

For some reason when I was growing up, programming wasn't ever discussed as a thing I might want to do, so came to it myself much later on.

The most striking thing about this article is probably the main image. It almost perfectly captures implicitly all of the outrage of the tech community over the NSA dragnet. All the hypocrisy in one neat picture.

Yeah, I would have liked more exposition on that point as well. Earlier, when talking about product design he says, "We wanted to change the world," so it would have been interesting to worry the tooth a little over modern technical innovation (computing, software, robotics, to name three), as I'd be surprised if he was dismissing it all out of hand.

This is pretty much what Peter Sunde was getting at with this talk I think [0].

I agree though, I ended up having an argument with my parents on this subject. My old man's been working with software for goodness knows how long and he still doesn't really see it, so I think maybe it's more that some people implicitly trust and support the status quo.

> and should I lose, I will simply leave this country and it's countrymen. the EU convention lists internet access as a human right.

This. I really believe that together we're stronger. For all its (many many) failings, the EU is just a political confluence in the same way as the internet at its best is a social confluence, and if the country of my birth lets me down then I'll move to the continent and leave the Little Englanders behind.

[0] http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-11/18/peter-sunde-h...

I just went through exactly this train of thought, except I caught myself before posting :)

Honestly, I have no idea why this is on HN.

Yeah true, I think you've hit the nail on the head - much as I sometimes wish something like Python were the standard instead, the lambda functions are fiddly (even if the list comprehensions are great).

In all fairness though, it's very easy to bash JS, but the anonymous functions etc., that are really core to the language are pretty powerful. I used to hate it a lot more than I do now, but one day I realized that apart from its more patchy areas (no strftime, what?), it actually covers off a lot of coding styles and patterns you need in order to get stuff done.

Okay, thanks. Is this aimed at developers then, rather than say the product team?

I think it's a great thing to aspire to (I certainly do), but yeah, don't think you could claim to be there until you'd put in some serious years, there's just too much to know, too many languages with too many weird edge quirks.

Ha, yeah that's what I meant. Love seeing them described that way!

Is it just me, or is this whole article a description of a full-stack web developer rather than a JS engineer?

Yoda assertions, nice.[0]

[0] http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/07/new-programming-jar...

A question (not meant facetiously) but what's the benefit of this over say, Capybara/webrat, which already has the click and fill_in human readable methods? The block of example code looks pretty much like an RSpec/Capybara spec, is all.

> "The outside world fell away, and it became just us slowly unlocking each other’s secrets, dreams and opinions, which in those days were not posted on “walls” for anybody to casually scroll through. We felt we were the only two people in the world."

My partner and didn't put our relationship on fb for maybe six months or so... but even if we did, how would that have made it any less meaningful? I like the general 'what if' vibe of this, I'm (just) old enough to have some missed connections, but the superior tone is just a bit comical.

I think what they've forgotten is that the biggest reason things don't come together is the personalities of the people involved, or not even speaking out at all - which will happen regardless of the comms tech available.

Even his Manchester International Festival documentary was incredible, and that was at least a third musical collaboration...

I think probably you need the context: Adam Curtis usually makes multi-part documentaries that span several hours, so his blogs have a pretty serious load on the old attention-span. That said, I've never yet been disappointed by the way he puts them together. He's very much a storyteller, but at the same time as he admits to weaving in his own opinions, he does at least do his dues as regards research. Some of the archive material he unearths is unbelievable, I swear he must just live on a camp bed in the BBC archive.

I know, I tried it in Chrome. What I am saying is the mouse-over behaviour does not trigger correctly in FF.

Kinda cool actually. One thing: the 'features' overlays don't appear to work on Firefox.

A recent scandal in the UK happened when the Mail publicly called a leading politician's father 'evil' as he was a Marxist. He was also a respected academic at a leading institution and fought for Britain against the Nazis, whereas the Mail was pro-appeasement and its owner friends with Hitler. Without wishing to appeal to Godwin's law, it's that kind of bald-faced moral pronouncement (with no regard to institutional hypocrisy) on subjects from immigration to gay rights that makes the Mail so divisive.