hatefulheart

Sephora is tier-1 at the Clown convention

Someone steel man the case for users actually wanting to be a UI designer for the application they pay you for.

That’s great! Because then you’re left with the simple task of raising it up with the government.

Presumably the stress one endures when their way of life is challenged significantly is life changing. Not that you’d care though, by the sounds of it.

You just got called out, don’t cry.

Stop editing your ridiculous comment.

Rights are enshrined by society, it’s what we choose. Nothing is a right in and of itself contrary to what your comment tries to imply.

The bubble is about the market you wally not about whether statistical models are useful.

I wish people would stop being so dense.

Are you assuming that I believe the advent of the Internet and LLMs are the same thing?

If you have no critiques about a piece of technology in an area of technology that has existed for less than 10 years I think that speaks for itself.

Amazing! So was Scheme.

Python was invented two years before Java and didn’t move the needle until the mid 2010s.

You are the typical mark for hype cycles. Get a clue will you.

Your reading comprehension is awful.

You said “all” as in “all” developers on those projects. You haven’t spoken to all of them to make that claim. You’re just making stuff up. That’s what I was pointing out.

If you are suggesting that we can call the Chromium project a work of LLMs because some developers may or may not be using LLMs on the project it let’s just stop the conversation right here.

This is becoming a classic case of LLM brain rot. I hope you come back to your senses.

Let’s not forget we are talking about a world changing technology here. So when you tell me “some people working on some projects are using it”, I’ll pretend you didn’t say “all” because that’s untrue, you haven’t asked all of them, and the company that got bought out by Anthropic did their “rewrite-in-rust” meme, do you think it’s unreasonable to incredulous?

8 months ago I asked this question, I will ask again:

Where are your browsers? Where are your compilers? Where are your databases? Where are your operating systems?

Can you point me to literally anything useful that works and was created by this world changing technology? All I see is dead project after dead project.

Ah your mind hasn’t been fine tuned to the ChatGPT response, I applaud you.

You’re totally right! You’re not building a CLI tool, you’re building a game engine!

Incredibly cringe. Literally every single medium mode problem for a team is framed as a groundbreaking achievement. These people snort their own farts.

Not convinced that is true.

Yeah, wait until the whole thing is unresponsive due to heat or a bug, you’ll be wishing only your volume button was affected.

The fact you can rip open the dashboard and fix something is great and what I call a feature, not a bug.

We all know the future results of a lame horse.

Sure thing, just like I’ve been checking back on people over the last 3 years. I’ll hit you up too.

I understand and of course I am familiar with the hypothetical you are trying to set up here but I was specifically pointing out a logical fallacy I see banded round all the time by people who should know better or educate themselves.

I will say that if “good engineering practices” comes up in your root cause analysis for a failure to launch a product you are not thinking critically.

Survivorship bias, you don’t know of all the failed projects that couldn’t get off the ground because of incompetent development team and practices that lead a product to its demise, or a product that is possible within constraints that otherwise could have been a success, but not realised by sloppy work and incompetence.

Furthermore the dependencies you choose to build your product are presumably filtered for engineering practices or world class engineers. So given the choice you yourself prefer top quality engineering, so do your customers. Much in the same way you are a customer of your projects dependencies. Difference being, as developers we get to see how the sausage is made, our customers only see second and third order effects.

These two not mutually exclusive?

“Wild success” and “going slower than expected”?

Wake me up when words have a meaning again.

I’m sorry, what’s the question? Genuinely not sure.

I’ll rephrase, Zuckerberg would certainly enjoy agentic coding to be a wild success because it means less staff and more products he could fail to create.

Friend, you are commenting on a thread where one of the most prominent figures in tech (rightly or wrongly) is saying something did not meet expectations. As far as we can tell this is a man with every incentive to exaggerate and boost these products.

In my world, when something is expensive and doesn’t meet expectations it called a failure. Especially when something has been as hyped, scrutinized, defended and attacked as vibe coding.

Honestly, if you are the director of robotics at a firm I think it’s time you took a cold shower.

Absurd.

We are beset on all sides with companies declaring agentic coding a failure and here you are stating as a matter of fact some teams “thrive” with this probabilistic expensive approach to approximating working code?

All the while concluding with “I have no evidence for any of this”.

So wait you’ve told it not to make any mistakes or you haven’t? Seems like you’re missing this one easy trick!

It’s not about making mistakes, it’s about telling it not to make mistakes!

Have you tried telling it:

“Write perfect code, make no mistakes”

I use this one in my Ralph Harness all the time, it’s a classic!

It’s not that it can’t do that, it’s just that you haven’t told it to!

The irony!