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gom_jabbar··on Munich 1991: The Roots of the Current AI Boom
> Any class that even says a little about the history of NNs will talk about Rosenblatt and the Perceptron.

Sure. I think it starts to get more interesting when the influences that Rosenblatt explicitly cites in his seminal Perceptron paper (e.g. Hayek) become part of the discussion (which rarely happens in my experience).

gom_jabbar··on Munich 1991: The Roots of the Current AI Boom
Yes, Rosenblatt is another good example. I recently looked deeper into the development of the perceptron and it's absolutely fascinating.
gom_jabbar··on Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup
Haven't heard about the universal subspace hypothesis yet, so I appreciate the digression.
gom_jabbar··on The dead economy theory
As mentioned in the comments, this is essentially Nick Land's vision, which he has been developing for over 30 years. If anyone is interested in exploring this topic in depth, I have a research project on it: https://retrochronic.com (The Capital Autonomization section of the introduction is particularly relevant.)
gom_jabbar··on The dead economy theory
Yes. Here's one relevant quote that touches on autonomization and secession:

> Most simply, there is the utilitarian order, in which capital establishes itself as the competitively-superior solution to prior purposes (production of human use-values), and the intelligenic order in which it accomplishes its self-escalation (mechanization, autonomization, and ultimately secession).

Nick Land (2014). Freedoom (Prelude-1a) in Xenosystems Blog. Retrieved from github.com/cyborg-nomade/reignition

gom_jabbar··on Magnifica Humanitas
Exactly. The source of that quote should be this interview from 2017 [0].

For those interested in exploring Land's main thesis (capitalism is AI), I have a research project on the topic [1].

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGxgGQpyBYM

[1] https://retrochronic.com

gom_jabbar··on Lessons for Agentic Coding: What should we do when code is cheap?
> I'm genuinely curious where this all goes

Maybe toward autonomous/sovereign capital with no humans in the loop, not even at the level of (asset) ownership.

gom_jabbar··on 10 years ago, someone wrote a test for Servo that included an expiry in 2026
Made me think of Mark Fisher's Y2K Positive text:

> At the Great Midnight at the century's end, signifying culture will flip over into a number-based counterculture, retroprocessing the last 100 years. Whether global disaster ensues or not, Y2K is a singularity for cybernetic culture. It's time to get Y2K positive.

Mark Fisher (2004). Y2K Positive in Mute.

gom_jabbar··on Silicon Valley is turning scientists into exploited gig workers?
Nietzsche argued that genius is more frequent than we think, but that something else is missing for its realization ("the five hundred hands"):

> In the realm of genius, might the “Raphael without hands” — the term understood in its broadest sense — be not the exception, but the rule? — Genius is perhaps not so rare after all: but the five hundred hands it needs to tyrannize the καιρὁς, “the right time” — to seize chance by the scruff of the neck! [0]

[0] http://www.nietzschesource.org/#eKGWB/JGB-274 (translated from German)

gom_jabbar··on The rational conclusion of doomerism is violence
The interesting thing is that, for the "Father of Accelerationism" (Nick Land), AI Doomerism (doom for humans, at least for human identity) and Accelerationism (which for Land is just another label for capitalism: 'The label "accelerationism" exists because "capitalismism" would be too awkward.'[0]) are not opposed at all. And capitalism does not need to get elected.

(Land follows the above quote with "(But the reflexivity of the latter [capitalismism] is implicit.)"[0], which specifies that, for Land, more precisely, "Accelerationism is simply the self-awareness of capitalism"[1].)

[0] Nick Land (2018). Outsideness: 2013-2023, Noumena Institute, p. 71.

[1] Nick Land (2017). A Quick-and-Dirty Introduction to Accelerationism in Jacobite Magazine. Retrieved from github.com/cyborg-nomade/reignition

gom_jabbar··on System Card: Claude Mythos Preview [pdf]
Expected outcome. Nick Land and the CCRU have explored how capitalism operationalizes science fiction (distilled in the concept of Hyperstition). Viewed through this lens, prices encode "distributed SF narratives." [0]

[0] Nick Land (1995). No Future in Fanged Noumena: Collected Writings 1987-2007, Urbanomic, p. 396.

gom_jabbar··on I prefer OG style websites – what are yours?
Related: 0rphan Drift Archive

https://www.orphandriftarchive.com

gom_jabbar··on Grief and the AI split
The real transition would be from human-owned capital to self-owned capital. You are right that current capabilities and autonomy don't allow for that yet.
gom_jabbar··on 70k Books Found in Hidden Library in This Germany Home (2023)
If you're only interested in his ideas, The Swerve summarizes them on pages 185-199 (1st edition).
gom_jabbar··on 70k Books Found in Hidden Library in This Germany Home (2023)
Agreed. Even assuming that most people aren't deeply familiar with his philosophy, it's still nice for a culture to have something like a celebrity philosopher.
gom_jabbar··on 70k Books Found in Hidden Library in This Germany Home (2023)
Absolutely. One of my favorite books about the power of books is The Swerve: How the World Became Modern (2011) by Stephen Greenblatt. It tells the story of the rediscovery of Lucretius's poem De rerum natura (On the Nature of Things), which was assumed lost.
gom_jabbar··on 70k Books Found in Hidden Library in This Germany Home (2023)
German book culture is great! When he was in Karlsruhe to profile Peter Sloterdijk, The New Yorker reporter Thomas Meaney seemed surprised by it:

"Over the summer, ordinary Germans who spotted his [Peter Sloterdijk] books in my hands engaged me in conversation on trains, in coffee shops, at universities, and in bookshops." [0]

[0] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/02/26/a-celebrity-ph...

gom_jabbar··on 70k Books Found in Hidden Library in This Germany Home (2023)
This reminds me of Peter Sloterdijk describing books as "bewusstseinserweiternde Drogen" (mind-expanding drugs) and "Waffen" (weapons) in his working library. [0]

[0] https://youtu.be/Wn5EgkuQb5U?t=293 (4:53)

gom_jabbar··on The Pentagon is making a mistake by threatening Anthropic
> It just needs one player to do it, so everyone has to be able to do it. I'd love to hear a different scenario.

Other players just need to assume that one player might do it in the future. This virtual future scenario has a causal effect on the now. The overall dynamic is that of an arms race (which radically changes what a player is).

gom_jabbar··on Layoffs at Block
I think assuming human agency (building technocapitalism, correcting course) or the possibility to escape capitalism and its consequences (in bunkers), underestimates what capitalism is.
gom_jabbar··on Layoffs at Block
Mark Fisher is excellent. It will be interesting to see if his claim that the human face is required for capitalism's functioning will hold (does not look like it).
gom_jabbar··on Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge
Exactly. He recently said the following in an interview:

"AI safety and anti-capitalism [...] are at least strongly analogous, if not exactly the same thing." [0]

[0] Nick Land (2026). A Conversation with Nick Land (Part 2) by Vincent Lê in Architechtonics Substack. Retrieved from vincentl3.substack.com/p/a-conversation-with-nick-land-part-a4f

gom_jabbar··on OpenClaw is dangerous
For those who are interested, I'm researching Land's main thesis that capitalism is AI: https://retrochronic.com
gom_jabbar··on Dario Amodei – "We are near the end of the exponential" [video]
Yes, I was just about to bring this up as well. One could argue that they were simply too early. It will be interesting to watch things like ERC-8004.
gom_jabbar··on An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened
Yes, probably. In a Heraclitean cyberspace, concealment and secrecy are essential.

The second season of the New Creative Era podcast is about online Dark Forests. [0]

They even have a Dark Forest OS. [1]

[0] https://blog.metalabel.com/into-the-dark-forest/

[1] https://www.dfos.com/

gom_jabbar··on Dario Amodei – "We are near the end of the exponential" [video]
Nick Land is arguably the most influential philosopher in SV (at least over the past 3 years). Marc Andreessen's acknowledgment of Land in his 2023 The Techno-Optimist Manifesto has brought his underground influence more to the surface.

Land's explicit anti-humanism can be repulsive to some on first encounter, but some of his ideas -- e.g. about the identity of capitalism and AI, the autonomization of capital, the technological singularity as capitalism's inherent teleology -- are interesting and can provide a very unique perspective.

It's also important to note that he tends to resonate more with creative types. Historically, these were mostly artists. Today, they are also founders (who are psychometrically similar to artists at the population level).

gom_jabbar··on Accelerationism: A fringe philosophy predicted the future we live in (2017)
Great article. Have read it multiple times over the years. The predictive power of Accelerationism is perhaps even more evident now than it was in 2017.
gom_jabbar··on The Markets of Old London (2024)
I have always been fascinated by this interpretation (that capitalism is (retrochronic) AI), which is why I have created a research project on it: https://retrochronic.com
gom_jabbar··on The Markets of Old London (2024)
Yes, this is one of the main references for Nick Land's thesis that capitalism is (retrochronic) AI.

The one you cited is from Machinic Desire (1993). Interestingly, it also appears in the relatively unknown text Shorelines from the Making People Disappear exhibition (1993):

"What appears to humanity as the history of capitalism is an invasion from the future by an artificial intelligent space that must assemble itself entirely from its enemy's resources." [0]

[0] http://merliquify.com/artwork/exhibitions/making-people-disa... (p. 4)

gom_jabbar··on Is AI the Paperclip?
Instrumental convergence is final convergence (w/o final goal divergence following instrumental convergence as assumed by Bostrom).
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