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fwadfka··on Tech Companies and Diversity Hiring
That number is misleading, because that data uses a "Computer sciences" category which likely lumps in "Information" degrees. The number I see in 2015 is ~2.5% (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12101868)
fwadfka··on Tech Companies and Diversity Hiring
> Blacks are about 7% - 8% of college graduates with CS degrees each year

Your data lumps together "Computer sciences," which probably includes Information degrees. If you look at CS degrees only it's about 2.5% in 2015 (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12101868).

fwadfka··on Tech Companies and Diversity Hiring
People with CS degrees tend to be the ones building new software. Information degrees vary a lot, but tend to have decreased math requirements and be more focused on the application of technology. As a software engineer working in the bay area, I have seen hundreds of engineers with CS degrees and zero engineers with information degrees - in my experience there is a stark difference, and I would be surprised and interested if the data showed otherwise.
fwadfka··on Tech Companies and Diversity Hiring
> * Percent of CS college graduates that are black: 11.5%

The number I got for 2015 was 2.5% (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12101868)

One of the key sources of this difference is whether you count "Information" degrees as CS. My number doesn't include information degrees and yours does.

fwadfka··on Tech Companies and Diversity Hiring
> Assuming everyone who graduated with a CS degree from the US was hired at an equivalent then one would expect something closer to 7%-8%.

When I look at the data, I see that 2.5% of graduates are black. I'm looking at PhD, Master's or Bachelor's in CS in 2015.[1]

The totals exclude those with unknown ethnicity:

15 black CS PhDs out of 1442

110 black CS Master’s out of 8,923

425 black CS Bachelor’s out of 11,974

(15+110+425) / (1442+8923+11974) = ~0.0246

[1] 2015 Taulbee Survey, Computing Research Association

http://cra.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2015-Taulbee-Surve...

EDIT: I believe one big source of the difference between our numbers is whether you count "Information" degrees as a CS degree. My number only looks at "Computer science" degrees, whereas your data looks at "Computer sciences" degrees.

fwadfka··on Tech Companies and Diversity Hiring
In Apple's 2014 EEO-1 they distinguish between professionals and technicians. Professionals are 1.7% black and technicians are 11.3% black. I assume both of these are lumped into a single "tech workforce" number.

https://www.apple.com/diversity/pdf/2014-EEO-1-Consolidated-...