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We do the best we can and push our partners to do the same. Over the years it is getting better, but it is not close to what consumers want.
That said, speed is a much bigger issue in some markets (rentals in cities like Munich) and much less in others (buying a house out in a village).
We work very closely with our partners to try to improve the data. It's not always easy. I gave a talk about this at csv,conf in Berlin in July, slides are here: http://www.slideshare.net/lokku/a-living-hell-lessons-learne...
Over the years I have seen numerous services that allowed people to search the way you describe. They all typically die out after a year or two, as all evidence suggests there just isn't enough volume of people searching the way you describe to sustain them.
So it's not something we'll focus on. Sorry, I know that's probably a frustrating answer for you.
Good luck with your hunt.
We've been doing it for many years and have tried many things, but if anyone has further suggestions always happy to learn.
It's really hard to build something simple, especially in more chaotic markets like India and Brazil.
re: Zoopla, they are one of our best partners. They are a great portal, we are a search engine. Complimentary tools for different tasks.
In seriousness though, while we do try our best (not just in Germany, but eight other countries as well), the situation he describes is one that the internet doesn't do a good job of solving. Basically demand way outstrips supply in cities like Munich. As a result, if you have a good flat or house you want to rent out, really all you need to do is tell 5-10 people and via word of mouth you'll very quickly have more than enough high quality applicants. You really don't need online tools.
An interesting result is that we're now starting to see start-ups that reverse the model. In Köln/Düsseldorf there is https://salzundbrot.com (a Nestoria partner) who are free for owners/landlords, but charge applicants a small fee to make contact. Will be interesting to see if it catches on.
The reality though is there is just way more demand than supply. Normally that would be solved by price rises, but the rate of rent increases is reguated by law.
All that said, while I have sympathy with Munich renters, I now live in central London, where the problem is at another order of magnitude. As I always say "London isn't expensive, the rest of the world is cheap".
We (Nestoria.de) aggregate listings of most of the players in real estate in Germany (IS24, immowelt, immonet, süddeutsche, others) and offer an API. We also offer an API of price trends (ie what the avg rent is in an area and if it's going up or down).
we aggregate OSM, Datascience tool kit, geonames, and more. All feedback welcome
My company (Nestoria) just started a "module of the month". Each month the dev team picks someone whose code we use and via gittip we'll donate $1/week for a year to that person. That's not a fortune obviously, but our hope is that others - individuals and companies - follow our lead, and in many cases it will be obscure modules that don't otherwise get a lot of attention.
http://devblog.nestoria.com/post/86216883403/module-of-the-m...
a. the third party service provider can just provide service for free. We can't, at least not indefinitely.
b. the end consumer can somehow be billed by the third party service. Feels complicated, especially as the use of the service may be deep in the internals and behind the scenes of the app. The consumer may well have no idea it is being used
c. the application developer can pay. Either directly or via billing the end consumer.
Option c. feels like the only sustainable one. Happy to hear your thoughts on it though.
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in our old logo we used to use the "nest" image, but that only makes sense in some languages. Last year we went with a more modern look.