One somewhat trivial example is that light loses energy due to redshift since photon energy is proportional to frequency.
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One somewhat trivial example is that light loses energy due to redshift since photon energy is proportional to frequency.
- You are a real person who genuinely wants to make a difference in the field of physics
- The proposed mathematics isn't technobabble and actually does generate the constants you say it does
- The contributions are overwhelmingly yours, not overwhelmingly AI-generated
Even under these generous assumptions, this just isn't how citizen science is done. Your first step isn't publishing a 2-page paper with no references and basically no details on what you're doing or why. Your first step is taking your results to the nearest PHd theoretical physicist you can find, and getting them to take you seriously so you can find out if your work actually has merit.
I could just as easily make a painting analogy. You go to an art gallery and a piece immediately catches your eye. The composition, colors, you even think you can see a rosy meaning behind it all.
Then the curator comes by and explains that it was painted by David Duke, grand wizard of the KKK, and that the piece represents his deeply racist hatred of black people and his desire to murder innocents.
What you feel after having that explained is not "post hoc rationalization" - you're just recontextualizing your previous feelings towards the piece now that you have new information. That is the argument.
All of a sudden, you start acting like he's a "bad guy," who should "burn in hell." You liked him just fine before I gave you that info, so clearly that's just a post hoc rationalization that cannot withstand the simple fact that he was liked as a person before his interests were known.
You also seem to be talking about AI training more generally and not the specific case I singled out, which is important because this isn't a case of simply training a model on content obtained with consent - the material OpenAI and Stable Diffusion gathered was very explicitly without consent, and may have been done through outright piracy! (This came out in a case against Meta somewhat recently, but the exact origins of other company's datasets remain a mystery.)
Now I explained in another comment why I think current copyright laws should be able to clearly rule this specific case as copyright infringement, but I'm not arrogant enough to think I know better than copyright attorneys. If they say it falls under fair use, I'm going to trust them. I'm also going to say that the law needs to be updated because of it, and that brings us full circle to why I disagree with the article in the first place.
Your second construction is generative, but likely worse than a Markov chain model, which also did not have any market effect.
We're talking about the models that have convinced every VC it can make a trillion dollars from replacing millions of creative jobs.
If you're asking for my personal opinion, I can weigh in on my personal take for some fair use factors.
- Research into generative art models (the kind which is done by e.g. OpenAI, Stable Diffusion) is only possible due to funding. That funding mainly comes from VC firms who are looking to get ROI by replacing artists with AI[0], and then debt financing from major banks on top of that. This drives both the market effect factor and the purpose/character of use factor, and not in their favor. If the research has limited market impact and is not done for the express purpose of replacing artists, then I think it would likely be fair use (an example could be background removal/replacement).
- I don't know if there are any legal implications of a large vs. small corporation using a product of copyright infringement to produce profit. Maybe it violates some other law, maybe it doesn't. All I know is that the end product of a GenAI model is not copyrightable, which to my understanding means their profit potential is limited as literally anyone else can use it for free.
The problem is this article seems to make absolutely no effort to differentiate legitimate uses of GenAI (things like scientific and medical research) from the completely illegitimate uses of GenAI (things like stealing the work of every single artist, living and dead, for the sole purpose of making a profit)
One of those is fair use. The other is clearly not.
My disagreement isn't because wine or proton exist, it's because most people only use a web browser. They check their email, watch tiktok and netflix, and write documents. 90% of people would have all their computing needs met by a basic chromebook.