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fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
That's a fair counterargument, but I don't think it holds up. I'm talking about a portfolio rather than a single asset. Technically we would want to model that using a log-normal distribution, but I think the example suffices. Can you think of a realistic example where someone would accidentally hold a dynamic portfolio that exhibits outperforming returns over 20 years?
fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
That doesn't refute the mathematics demonstrating that people can reliably do this with skill rather than luck. Eventually Brady's not going to be able to play football professionally either. But he still does, and when he can't do it anymore that won't indict his professional record.
fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
There exist funds which have annualized a two-sigma return over SPY for over 20 years. If you model returns as approximating a normal distribution (e.g. just luck), and you model years achieving a return at least two standard deviations above the mean under a binomial distribution (i.e. number of years they've been exceptionally lucky), the likelihood of those track records existing are around 1 x 10^-37.

I would call that sufficient evidence to reject the null hypothesis that the returns are normally distributed, which is to say it's not luck. If you expand your sample size to all investment vehicles throughout history, there still haven't been anywhere nearly enough for such a track record to emerge by chance.

Elementary statistics is well equipped to distinguish between a distribution signifying luck and a distribution signifying skill. It's structurally the same as assessing normality, noise, randomness, etc.

fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
Sure - off the top of my head, basically any fund or advisor which specializes in derivatives volatility. Universa Investments is a specific example, but you can find more by searching for those criteria.
fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
Do you believe the following investments are equally attractive?

1. You invest $100,000 into a fund which has a 1% chance of returning 100% and 99% chance of returning -100% each year.

2. You invest $100,000 into a fund which has a 20% chance of returning 100% and a 80% chance of returning -100% each year.

The possible payouts are the same. The expected values are not. Given the opportunity to invest in both with no difference in fees or other structure, would you leave your decision up to a coin flip?

fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
No, because Buffett is an individual. The theorem is a statement of aggregate performance.

It's not surprising there exist individual people who are capable of beating the market, just like it's not surprising there exist people who can play sports at an elite level. You likewise wouldn't expect every human to be able to play at the elite level.

Aggregate performance should cluster around a point of central tendency.

fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
> Or is the answer really "if you need a hedge fund as part of your portfolio, you probably aren't coming to HN for investment advice"?

Yeah, that's basically the answer. Retail investors don't typically need to optimize their portfolios with bespoke investment vehicles. Their exposure and goals aren't complicated.

fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
No I didn't assume that, I fully agree with you. Funds which are capable of consistently (and safely) beating the market on an absolute basis eventually cap their AUM and return outside capital.
fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
> Risk-adjustment" is just another metric which makes not much sense: either I have the money or I do not. Money now is worth more than possible money tomorrow.

If you think risk-adjustment doesn't make sense as an evaluation metric, you should just sell naked puts or calls on a stock which doesn't seem volatile. You're going to generate spectacular returns for a while. Then you're going to blow up.

On the other hand a portfolio with relatively low idiosyncratic risk and low market correlation (beta) might be safely levered up to a higher absolute return than e.g. SPY with less overall risk and volatility.

Like I said...it's complicated.

fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
I was probably a little unclear. Basically I'm saying all you can take away from this is a statement about aggregate performance. You're not doing this in your comment, but I frequently see people on HN extrapolate this bet to support the idea that there's no such thing as a hedge fund which beats the market, or which is a worthwhile investment, etc.

You can't derive a conclusion about individual hedge funds from this. That might seem obvious to you, but maybe you'd be surprised then :)

fractionalhare··on Warren Buffett's bet against hedge funds at the Long Now Foundation (2008-17)
Buffett won. However, several caveats apply when using this bet to draw conclusions:

1. Buffett bet against aggregate performance of hedge funds as an investment vehicle. If he restricted his focus to the highest performing funds of the past 10 - 30 years, he would have lost handily.

2. Buffett used absolute returns as the performance metric, not risk-adjusted returns. A portfolio with lower absolute returns but a significantly better idiosyncratic risk profile (and correlation to market/beta) can be superior to a portfolio with higher absolute returns but also higher risk.

Taken together, this means that Buffett's bet is a statement about the aggregate performance of the industry. It is not instructive for what performance is possible, or even for whether or not you should invest with the modal hedge fund (given the opportunity). It depends on investment goals and risk needs. It's also worth pointing out that "risk needs" is multi-dimensional, not just a sliding scale of how much e.g. leverage you're willing to accept. There is an entire sub-industry of hedge funds which explicitly expect to underperform on an absolute basis for long periods of time, but which service their clients with highly bespoke risk products. Clients are frequently well-informed and happy with this arrangement.

I say this because there is a tendency for people outside the industry to come away thinking hedge funds are a scam. Which...well, many are, to put it bluntly. But it's a lot more complicated and this isn't really the smoking gun you'd think it is.

fractionalhare··on Are You Trading or Gambling?
> And you do so without any connection to the balance sheet of the company.

This is incorrect for just about every long/short equity hedge fund.

fractionalhare··on How Uber Deals with Large iOS App Size
No, it's also substantially different between certain cities and regions in the CONUS. Otherwise that might be viable.
fractionalhare··on The GameStop Mess Exposes the Naked Short Selling Scam – The American Prospect
That's not what market efficiency means. Market efficiency is specifically a function of liquidity and price discovery. A market is more efficient when the price of assets is derived from some measure of intrinsic value. Technical factors emergent in trading mechanics (such as what causes a short squeeze) do not have intrinsic value. Obviously you can can extract value from them in the short term, but that is not the same thing as market efficiency. When you trade on technical factors like a short squeeze, your orders do not enhance a directional view of the asset or the liquidity of the asset.

This is to say that not everything which is profitable is enhancing market efficiency. Generally speaking: long/short strategies are preoccupied with price discovery and valuation, systematic momentum, trend and volatility strategies are concerned with arbitrage, and market makers are concerned with liquidity. These three exist on a spectrum between enhancing price discovery and enhancing liquidity. There isn't really anything inefficient about shorting too much - if that happens, it means there's widespread consensus the asset is overvalued, which is likewise a statement that there should be less of the asset at that value. The valuation and liquidity have a feedback cycle here.

In the case of GME, a directional view that could contribute to price discovery would be that GME should actually be valued on future revenues which are mispriced by the market due to a variety of factors (e.g. Ryan Cohen, digital-first transformation, etc). It would still be generous and optimistic, but it would at least be a coherent directional thesis. The process of market efficiency would be to incorporate this view when you stake with an open position, and theoretically if you're right your view will be vindicated.

There is nothing efficient about GME at $100, let alone $400.

fractionalhare··on GameStop Is Happening Again
Their AUM was around $13B at the beginning of the year. They were short at $20. As was reported, they lost about 53% of that, call it $6B, as GME rose from $20 to $100, which is when they said they closed out. Their AUM wouldn't be able to survive $100 - $200 given their losses going from $20 - $100.
fractionalhare··on GameStop Is Happening Again
Well there's the evidence that any firm short at $20 would have been dead if they didn't get out before $200. I'm only aware of one firm that went bankrupt, and it wasn't Melvin or another major fund.

Put yourself in the firm's position and think about this from a game theoretic perspective...what is the upside in lying? The thinking is that you might convince people to lay off the voracious buying if you make it seem like the short squeeze isn't possible because you're out? That seems like a stretch and would require navigating lots of wild assumptions about why this almost unprecedented price action is happening.

On the other hand, there is tons of downside. If the plan doesn't work and the price continues its meteoric rise, you're bankrupt. If you're caught lying, you're additionally hit with securities fraud. Then the veil is pierced and the partners are at risk of losing their money. On top of this if your investors are savvy they'll sue you for breaking fiduciary duty because you didn't close out a position that makes selling naked SPY calls look safe. This also puts the partners' private capital at risk.

It would be cartoonishly dumb to lie about closing the position instead of actually doing it.

fractionalhare··on GameStop Is Happening Again
Who made those accusations, and what evidence did you see?

I've only seen those accusations on reddit and twitter. The only "evidence" I've ever seen in support of those accusations is repeated citation of short interest. Short interest is an aggregate figure which doesn't track specific firms, so it can't be used to discover if an individual fund closed or opened a short position.

fractionalhare··on GameStop Is Happening Again
Yeah in fairness I could have worded that more precisely, but that's the idea :)
fractionalhare··on GameStop Is Happening Again
Yeah I'm aware of that, but Melvin is not bankrupt.
fractionalhare··on GameStop Is Happening Again
That is the citation. The person in that clip is speculating about Melvin's losses in particular.
fractionalhare··on GameStop Is Happening Again
It's both retail and institutional.

Retail traders can't swing that kind of volume in the underlying shares, no. But retail call buying as a proportion of total equity options volume is up massively in the past two years. The trading leverage inherent to retail call options herding together combined with the requirement for market makers to hedge the options they sell induces these huge movements. From there, momentum traders exacerbate the spark that's already lit.

fractionalhare··on GameStop Is Happening Again
That is false. $16.8B is greater than Melvin's AUM at the start of the year. The person in that video doesn't substantiate their claim either.

As a more general aside: take everything said on Cramer's show with a grain of salt. He is a deeply unserious character in the financial space. His angle is to be provocative, not accurate.

fractionalhare··on Is Google’s AI research about to implode?
Okay, approximately all of us are replaceable. We can agree there is an epsilon of people who are clearly beyond others. However for almost all the work that has to get done, the actual bar is "can you write decent Python?", not "can you design and implement a novel algorithm for computing Pi?"
fractionalhare··on Abundant Capital
Harder to hedge against downside risk if you deploy $300M capital in six bets rather than 30, though.
fractionalhare··on OpenStreetMap charts a controversial new direction
The lawyer is almost certainly going to be significantly cheaper than the cost of the commercial service on an ongoing basis.
fractionalhare··on Robinhood CEO, Reddit Co-Founder and Others Testify on GameStop Stock
> Robinhood gave privileged information regarding the details of securities to various capital groups, who directly benefitted.

No it didn't, because it didn't have privileged information about the securities. Just because it's a broker doesn't mean it has privileged information about the securities it brokers. Brokers do not typically have privileged information about the securities they broker. To have privileged information, Robinhood would need to be an insider to those securities. Which it isn't.

I don't know what else to tell you - your understanding of the conditions required to meet the SEC's definition of insider trading is simply incorrect. You need to revisit the specific definitions of "insider" and its impact on confidentiality and fiduciary duty.

fractionalhare··on Robinhood CEO, Reddit Co-Founder and Others Testify on GameStop Stock
> Their actions meet the definition nearly exactly. The only difference is that Robinhood didn't directly execute the trades.

So...not "nearly exactly" at all. Moreover Robinhood isn't even an insider with respect to GME.

fractionalhare··on Robinhood CEO, Reddit Co-Founder and Others Testify on GameStop Stock
This is vastly different from insider trading - they're not even comparable issues. You could at least reasonably argue a case for market manipulation (though I'd still disagree).

You can't say this is insider trading unless you generously expand the definition of insider trading to include every kind of wrongdoing in the market. Robinhood executives didn't trade GME and didn't have any nonpublic information.

These definitions matter.

fractionalhare··on Game Stopped? (Live congressional hearing on GameStop)
I would not say Robinhood the corporate entity was okay, they seriously fucked up and could have seen this coming. Tenev called it a "five-sigma event" - lol okay. Sure it was, as if volatility blow ups happen once every 8 millennia...
fractionalhare··on Game Stopped? (Live congressional hearing on GameStop)
Yeah. Calling something a five-sigma event loses meaning if there haven't been anywhere near enough time intervals (here: market days) to validate that thesis.

Here is a decent paper on the topic of n-sigma events: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1103.5672.pdf

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