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filup··on Google is making private AI practical with homomorphic encryption
What does that have to do with incpa?

I send this server a question encrypted. It stays encrypted yet the server distinguished my ciphertext enough to produce a coherent reply. That means there was enough information in the ciphertext for the server to perform the inference, even if it was obscured to where it looks indistinguishable, it apparently wasn't.

This doesn't remove trust from the equation, it puts the trust directly on the algorithm. Probably one no one can explain to me like I'm 5. But because it's encrypted I am no longer breaking the law by processing on protected data. I imagine very large contracts await on the other side. Lots of money to be made.

filup··on Google is making private AI practical with homomorphic encryption
>They didn’t say that it “appears” indistinguishable from noise, but that it is indistinguishable.

That's the oxymoron. If it was indistinguishable nothing could be gained.

It's not about me being able to distinguish it. It's the model provider saying they cant, when they can.

filup··on Google is making private AI practical with homomorphic encryption
How can it possibly pass indcpa. If the model can give me any valuable information about the cipher. Apparently the middle man would know precisely what is contained in the payload.
filup··on Google is making private AI practical with homomorphic encryption
If it only appears indistinguishable from noise, but it's actually not, then it's just deception.
filup··on Google is making private AI practical with homomorphic encryption
I'm not saying that you can't design a system for secure cloud computing.
filup··on Google is making private AI practical with homomorphic encryption
Proper encryption means the ciphertext is indistinguishable from noise. So...in order to be able to process on it, you have to make it not indistinguishable from noise.

So I take offense to the term FHE. It's a oxymoron.

The whole thing immidiatly stands out as a sham to build trust where it's gone.

filup··on Qwen 3.8 27B
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48403639

my prediction was way too far out. 4.6 at home! Woo.

filup··on Coal Butter - Butter Made from Coal
Is margarin actually bad for me? Or did big butter win.

Interesting read thanks.

filup··on Flock-Powered Police Chiefs Stalking Women Shows Why Warrants Are Needed
Yes, there is a reasonable expectation of privacy while driving on public roads.

The expectation has been completely eroded by flock safety.

filup··on Flock-Powered Police Chiefs Stalking Women Shows Why Warrants Are Needed
It hasn't been articulated in court. But what flock has essentially done is created a GPS system without satilites.

See Jones vs USA.

Sufficiently saturated ALPRs across the country give you the same capability of GPS. Without GPS.

filup··on Flock-Powered Police Chiefs Stalking Women Shows Why Warrants Are Needed
Clearly a different situation considering the guy was in a rental vehical with GPS.

Of course their is no reasonable expectation of privacy here. It's not his car lol. The LEARN db query was auxillary to the precedent here.

I can't see the jump your making at all or how this precedent holds any would hold water in the case of a innocent party. Its probably just a matter of time until the perfect case is presented and new case law established. Precedents change you know?

filup··on Flock-Powered Police Chiefs Stalking Women Shows Why Warrants Are Needed
>If the city hires enough police officers, yes. It'd almost certainly require an unfathomably large budget, but it's not impossible.

If the precedent was set based on this idea. It will fall apart with further scrutiny.

>I really don't understand how people got this idea in their head that their license plates are private information . How do red light cameras identify cars? How does parking enforcement work? By recording people's license plates. The whole reason why we mandate that cars display license plates to is to facilitate identifying vehicles.

I don't think that is where the crux of the issue lay.

filup··on Flock-Powered Police Chiefs Stalking Women Shows Why Warrants Are Needed
Are you referring to the IJ case?

https://ij.org/case/norfolk-virginia-camera-surveillance/

filup··on Flock-Powered Police Chiefs Stalking Women Shows Why Warrants Are Needed
>A cop and stand at an intersection and write down license plate numbers without a warrant.

I dont believe you think the police force could replicate the injest of information these systems allow do you?

filup··on Flock-Powered Police Chiefs Stalking Women Shows Why Warrants Are Needed
Manual D, the flock system is still very new. Why are you confident a private companies monetization of public whereabouts will stay legal? There hasent really been any precedent set on this. And the system is wildly unpopular In the public eye?
filup··on Never Give Them Your Face
Maybe provide sources, or point out a specific claim on the Tor project website that you feel overestimates the capabilities or protections.

BGP attacks are largely defeated by onionservices.

And while governments have the ability to create exit nodes, so does anybody.

filup··on From AGI to ASI
Took awhile to read. My general takeaway is it's so amazing our drive to make things more efficient. We never slow down do we. Kinda hoping we hit a hard boundary of physics to be honest.

I didn't dive into the reference on why the guy thought our slow data processing is an advantage, but it does seem well tuned that we don't think like these models.

We would go mad and nothing would make sense.

Reminds me of the fun fact about the distance of the sun to the earth. Oddly tuned for our existence. Or when the anesthesiologists knocks out gamma waves and we skip through time in an instant. Why do the gamma waves operate like our lightswitch?

Anyways, since the start of the paper was sure I might use AI to summarize, here is AI's summary response using the personality of fry from futurerama.

https://postimg.cc/fJR1ZHfG

filup··on Entropy
I too enjoy this topic. Go down this rabbit hole far enough and you realize there is a chance dev/urandom is completely predictable don't ask me how I know this.
filup··on I've always wondered if anyone used sharing buttons on news sites and blogs
I have a hunch that amazon links do track somehow based on timing. Does anybody do that?

There are so many products on amazon sharing a link to one specific product and having someone else open it shortly after sounds like a high enough confidence.

Again just a hunch.

filup··on I've always wondered if anyone used sharing buttons on news sites and blogs
So true. I too dual as an automatic link cleaner.

When I receive a link with a 100 character hash attached I gasp and yell at the person who sent me it (my wife normally)

filup··on UK to require ID or face scan before you can make social media accounts
Time to build your own platforms I guess.
filup··on Launch HN: Drafted (YC P26) – Models for residential architecture
Looks really cool, as both a software developer and a custom home builder I think this is great.

I noticed it can only draw hip roofs.

You need more alot more training data of good looking houses. I'm sure it's taken a lot of effort to get these things working, but these houses are lacking some character to me.

I think this is a great idea. Have you thought about trying to hire architects or builders?

filup··on Launch HN: Drafted (YC P26) – Models for residential architecture
Im curious, where did you get all the training data? Actual blueprints? Or it the training data pictures of homes? Or a mix?
filup··on Ask HN: Data source used for training Anthropic's Mythos?
It was trained from experts telling older models what to do. They had agreements with these people who already did this stuff all day.

The benefit with the models is that you can get rid of alot of the grunt work and just try a massive amount of things that might work all at once in a short amount of time in a automated fashion.

filup··on Did Anthropic ask for this?
I get the logical deduction that takes place for not being able to truly know if others are conscious but you have to put your self in a spacey place to really not be confident others might not be conscious.

It's not a difficult leap to assume a twin brother is conscious. If you think it is, why do you think this?

filup··on The rich aren't your role models
Was that guy a billionaire? Sounds like a billionaire comment.
filup··on Encrypted Spaces: An architecture for collaborative applications
So, maybe we should change the name from Fully Homomorphic to something else. The schema your describing sounds like leaving the key under the mat for only parts of the data.

Fully sounds like Alice could process the data in absolutely anyway she would like. This schema sounds to complex to become useful for anything but a narrow set of capabilities. It sounds like it would be more effective for Alice and Bob to sign an agreement with each other than for bob to shape his data in a format useful for Alice to run her processes on it.

Why do we need to muddy the water of what encryption means to make the FHE schema work.

filup··on How to Earn a Billion Dollars
Hopefully the billionaires are happy with the reward at the end of the tunnel.

I suspect they may envy the laymens position in life eventually. You loose alot becoming wealthy in the monitary sense. There are many ways to define richness and wealth beyond what society defines it as.

As they say, more money more problems.

filup··on Not everyone is using AI for everything
That's the completely opposite of what people should do. The laborious task of programing logical work flows is the only reason AI is useful for me.
filup··on How to earn a billion dollars
I exclusively build stuff that I think is cool for me and my friends but I have little drive to market these things and plus they are designed to be completely free forever so I don't think I'll ever be a billionaire.
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