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A drone optimally randomly dodging at treetop height is a much more difficult target.
Unfortunately it’s difficult to test that hypothesis. And it’s survivor bias to pick Elon Musk.
At the end of the day - Violet Gibson wasn’t an employee or representative of any government. She was just someone with mental health issues and a revolver.
Again we come back to Thomas Mair, if your principle is that political violence is fine (again - that’s facism), then the only thing you should find objectionable about him is his politics. He was, after all, following your rules.
Personally I try to follow the “do unto others...” golden rule.
“Kill all others” seems to be the guiding principle of too many people.
And that really is the problem - in the one hand we have laws (set by governments) in a civil society that says violence is wrong, political violence doubly so, but at the same time they are putting up a plaque celebrating political violence.
It’s like “violence is bad... (wink)”
So if you were going to put up a plaque to Tony Blair celebrating his involvement in the Good Friday Agreement, I wouldn’t have an issue with it. I loathe the man personally and dislike much of his politics- but you are highlighting a positive thing he did.
Celebrating someone who is literally only thought of today because they failed to murder someone on the street sends a crazy message: “Murder is wrong... (wink)”
One might also observe that the violent attack in a foreign country might almost be ‘Imperialist’.
And if the attack was politically motivated (I personally think she was a few sandwiches short of a picnic), then she’s down for some political violence.
In that case she’s a bit more facist than anti-facist.
Everyone believes they are the hero of their own story - including people who hold different political beliefs to our own. They are surely only following the moral code you outline when they stand up for their convictions and reach for the revolver or knife or suicide bomb vest?
The irony here is that acceptable political violence is a facist belief. Perhaps you should investigate facism further: you might find it agreeable. I hear they have the best T-shirts.
Congratulations.
Because as I pointed out - you only cited examples whose politics you agree with.
Take the mental leap.
Of course if you voiced unpopular opinions publicly you might get shot by someone who cites Violet Gibson or Thomas Mair as an inspiration.
Or you know - we could not put up plaques to attempted murderers.
Presumably on that basis you see the killing of Jo Cox as justified?
Will you at least concede the point that she’d been in Italy for less than 2 years?
Not home grown.
Says 1924, and that she was already toying with the idea of martyrdom.
By that measure 9-11 was home grown!
Cool
Thomas Mair didn’t like the Jo Coxs politics so he took a shot too.
I guess you’ll be setting up a kickstarter for a plaque for him too?
Perhaps violence is the right way to address all people who have politics we don’t agree with?
Thomas Mair agrees with you.