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Europe just banned Russian TVs from broadcasting because they didn't agree with the content... https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eu-bans-rt-sputnik-bann...

Anecdotal but I currently have Omicron. I had COVID in March 2021 and got vaccinated in September. I have no symptom except back pain.

Same here. I couldn't go for runs for 4-5 weeks after the first dose. I also had COVID prior and was back on my feet after 3 days. I'm fine now but worried about getting boosted.

So it was included and then removed once people noticed?

10 seconds Googling: https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-cras...

Many other stories like that

Same for "long term COVID" - doesn't matter most symptoms can easily be explained by anxiety due to the amount of fearmongering. But definitely not for the vaccine side effects!

Interesting how this vaccine's side effect (which are real as per studies, most people have headaches, myalgia, etc...) are already dismissed as "false" but any "long term COVID" symptom which can 100% be explained by anxiety due to the constant fear mongering and propaganda is 100% real

No one spoke about identical drop. They've all dropped, their timelines might be lagging by a few days/weeks but they are all moving in the same direction in roughly the same timeline.

New Zealand (incredibly remote island with 4.8M, less than a few boroughs in London) shut down its borders before coronavirus season (which meant very limited community transmission outside of a few clusters) and did a hard lockdown. Once community spread has taken place (during coronavirus season), it's too late to act.

But if you have any argument other than ad-hominem attacks, please feel free to share and participate in the debate. Your only argument is outrage?

It's shocking that debate is now limited to insulting others of being anti scientific if they don't agree with one's point of view, backed with citations.

It's not hard to pick these things apart. Infections peaked before lockdown (in both lockdowns) in the UK thus lockdowns weren't necessary.

People decided to be vigilant by themselves — sure. That still means that lockdowns weren't necessary.

> This is just straight up wrong. Many countries like China, Singapore and Australia have gotten sizable outbreaks (tens of thousands of people) under control and effectively eliminated the virus in their territories.

Do you actually believe Chinese numbers...? Unrealistic to compare Australia (which shut down border before it was coronavirus season, hence no community spread) and Singapore (5M people, similar situation with borders shut during non coronavirus season).

Infections peaked before the lockdown according to King's College London's ZOE study (1). Exactly the same for the first lockdown. (2) Infections in most of Western Europe are decreasing at the same time regardless of measures taken or when they were taken. (3)

In a Spanish serological study, people staying home were found to be more infected than those who were essential workers and had to go to work. (4)

Hopefully at some point we will understand that the virus will follow its own curve regardless of what we try to do, after it has implanted in a country. Once it's coronavirus season again, infections will start rising again. It's taboo to say so for some reason...

A fun one for bonus: Six of 12 men wintering at an isolated Antarctic base sequentially developed symptoms and signs of a common cold after 17 weeks of complete isolation (5). If the virus can still spread after 17 weeks of complete isolation in an Antarctic base, it's foolish to think we can suppress coronavirus anywhere now that's it's endemic.

(1) https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-second-wave-appears-... — (2) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/04/coronavirus-infe... — (3) https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToS... — (4) https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6... — (5) https://www.jstor.org/stable/3862013