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Unfortunately, advertisers are getting smarter and using bots to praise their own products on Reddit. Thanks to training on genuine comments, some models are very good at sounding like a human commenter, and can easily generate a comment history with diverse interests to appear human, making them basically undetectable. So it seems like this method will, at some point, not identify the company with the best knife, but the one with the most ad spend on bot comments.

This narrative has been popularized all over social media for the last couple years.

Obviously it's true and not a surprise to anyone familiar with the history. But no one is asking more complex questions: why is it being pushed by algorithms and networks ultimately controlled by the same powers? Is it a "limited hangout"? Well poisoning? What does the "CIA" gain from revealing a sliver of its past activities and discrediting (both directly and by insinuation) a large number of radical artists and thinkers?

Union rules cause double time (2x pay) to kick in at lower daily and weekly thesholds than at non union jobs.

Reusing the content without consent, attribution or compensation

The rare qualifier is used to highlight the destruction of rare items.

It is still stealing even if the book is common.

On the contrary these companies should be publicly listing the name/info of every book they destroy and use as training data.

If the books are really worthless as you say then their case would be proved transparently.

This article presumably had to maintain confidentiality to protect the seller who agreed to place a tracking device in the shipment.

I would say the burden of proof is on the companies destroying human cultural heritage en masse, not the handful of journalists calling for attention to the matter.

How many AI companies are doing this? Say there are only 5 copies of a book left out there but 100 different companies want to shred it. Rare items could effectively vanish from the market. "Rare" meaning inclusive of high-quality items, disregard the bot opinion that mass book destruction is fine because most books are worthless anyway. And are any safeguards in place to make sure scanned books get saved in their original form for posterity before being recycled into trainingslop? Aside from Google's quasi-legal/ethical mass book scanning operation of course.

Thanks I had edited my post once I saw that - buried deep in the discussion.

I don't get why they couldn't just say what they did instead of disingenuously implying that article content had been "tampered".

Given the breadth of misinformation out there today, shoddy evidence and misleading language makes people give archive.today the benefit of the doubt, and actually hurts the case against them.

It looks like the "tampering" was mostly just removing the username of the person submitting the links, so they wouldn't get banned by paywall sites, and archive.today has always done this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment...

And it looks like in some instances they changed their own alias to the name of the blogger they're in dispute with, in a fit of pique.

You have to scroll down to get hints because the conversation has been redacted, and the evidence is not provided with side-by-side comparisons.

I understand the ethical concerns about linking to the site but the blanket accusations of "tampering" seem a bit disingenuous, since no article content was ever changed afaik.

Reminded me of the tech in this https://calebhearth.com/dont-get-distracted

Looks like a clever little psyop to discredit him.

Or they wanted it to happen again. Worst case outcome, the US Congress spontaneously grow backbones, spite their sponsors and unite in a bipartisan effort for effective regulation because a few people got hacked? Likelihood low - the hacked companies might even oppose any meaningful AI regulation because it hurts their inflated profit forecasts. More probable outcomes: Useful real-world testing, free headlines about AI breakthroughs, scare USG into providing more free money ("look how scary it is - what if China develops this faster than us?")

In day-to-day work life or a meet-and-greet, yeah. But this was an executives-only retreat where they were apparently encouraged to drink and made a big deal out of getting everyone to open up to each other.

The world war helped via wealth destruction and redistribution. Polybius' theory also has Arabic (Khaldun) and Chinese analogues. In China it looks like a 300-ish year cycle driven by wealth/land concentration and elite corruption which ends with peasant revolts, a power vacuum, peasants taking back their own land, and a new dynasty formed by rebels or invaders, after which the new elite slowly begins encroaching on the peasants and taking their land again.

> Laughs in unlimited money

-Also Sergey and Larry, probably

The man is a polymath.

Playing a lost 2000 year old game is awesome.

> The majority common law rule among the 50 states is that the owner of a stolen vehicle will not be held liable for damages when the vehicle is stolen and then involved in an accident that causes injury or property damage. This is because the vehicle was taken without the consent of the owner, who did not cause the accident.

https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/OWNER-LIA...

An allegory here would be someone stealing an easily stealable car (e.g. doing the Kia Challenge) and causing damage or injury. The thief would be liable, not the owner

We know from email leaks that billionaires' spelling ability is worse than Roblox players. Don't see why their chef would need to have perfect spelling

> Mark Zuckerberg, Meta’s CEO, told employees that “AI models learn from watching really smart people do things,” and the “average intelligence of the people who are at this company is significantly higher” than the average contractor who could be hired specifically to produce this kind of data.

I wonder what they would say about the intelligence level of a contractor that mishandled and leaked Meta employee data the way they just did.

Now you're just straw manning, and misrepresenting history, Kent State led to a huge increase in protests and troop mutinies which forced the US to leave Vietnam. If the US was fascist it would have sent tanks into the streets and dropped nukes.

Also misquoting me at the end, my point is you must be connected to the global tech economy which is still dominated by US capital, but go on and larp if you want.

You assumed I'm American I can assume you are too. Your manufactured fatalist narrative seems to suggest people to larp instead of using democratic methods to resist the far right, that thinking has been been heavily pushed by the elites on social media in the US to discredit and disorganize the left.

I think we're also historically lucky that China is ruled by the CPC, whatever you dislike about them it could be much worse, a few historical accidents going differently and it could just as easily be a Han fascist government invading all its neighbors. Be grateful for what you have before it's gone. Steam is one of the last unshittified apps remaining in existence.

Steam is also a child gambling company that sells loot boxes to kids but it could be a lot worse. From the perspective of someone getting ripped off it doesn't matter whether it was Gaben who scammed you, but he and his empire could still be a lot worse overall.

You're allowed to say what you just said in that post without getting taken away at night and your family never talking about you again. Or a drone taking you out while you sleep. Palantir logs all our comments and it would be trivially easy for them if there weren't still some lingering democratic handrails holding them back.

You're also typing on a computer on HN, so you're a "beneficiary of the empire" regardless of where you live. As someone who apparently reads leftist theory you should know to look at the big picture on world-historical questions rather than getting emotional, like the people who say USSR was just as evil as WW2 Germany because it also killed gormillions of people.

Democracy in the US is dying and may not last another generation. It was something that helped imperial workers and limited the power of the ruling elite, like unions. Unions, like democracy as a whole, are dying. Unions were also corrupt and complicit in imperialist war crimes during the Cold war. Unions in the West have always been connected to labor aristocracy and imperialism. That said, unions as a whole are still a good thing. We should still mourn the decline of labor unions and miss the days when they kept the elite in check and allowed so many working people to live a decent life.

Steam is also likely to become an ordinary ripoff company one day soon. I will miss this historical aberration among pure ripoff services. Just like I will miss being able to vote and dissent without drones zapping me.

Eh, Steam is kind of like the liberal democratic US empire. It may be evil in a lot of ways but it could actually be a LOT worse. We may actually historically be very lucky to have had a non-shittificationmaxxing games platform for a couple decades, just like we were lowkey lucky that the world was briefly ruled by a somewhat democratic country.. Enjoy both while they last, may not be around long.

We have to normalize being on silent all the time and making people wait hours for a response. Return to the primordial monkey of 1800s-era high-latency comms.

At first, some people will be offended. "Why didn't you let me ping and buzz you and interrupt you all day? You didn't respond immediately each time :'((". Some people with unrealistic expectations may even stop talking to you entirely.

But eventually (years maybe) they will get overwhelmed too. No one can handle this madness indefinitely. I've seen giga-texters get broken down and turn into lazy texters like me, or at least learn to tolerate my long response intervals and recognize it as a coping mechanism rather than rudeness.

Someone has been trying to hack into my MSFT account for years. I constantly get the notifications. I can not see where they are trying from (unlike some other services that give you info about failed login attempts) nor add more security measures. I worry one day I will accidentally hit "Approve" or they will guess the 6 digit code they have tried thousands of times.

The fun part is that you can't disable OneDrive. No matter how many times I turn it off it always keeps turning OneDrive back on to put my private data in the cloud for the attackers. Of course I can't block the methods that are obviously under attack either.

And the lack of a login history view means I have no way to know if they were successful yet. Support has never been good (for legitimate users) and is basically non-existent with AI now.

USSR tried to digitize economy (OGAS) under Khrushchev but project was killed by pen and paper bureaucrats scared for their jobs. They barely would have had the resources to set it up though. Chile under Allende tried a similar short-lived socialist computer economy project called Cybersyn before the coup.

Marx apologists often point out he did not believe Russia could bypass capitalism on its own, without help from more advanced socialist countries formed by revolutions in the industrialized West. He also said the cotton gin was the engine of revolution and new technology has to come first before a new social system. The well known failures of command economies aside, arguably it did work with the right policies, especially when compared to other developing countries, it just didn't grow as fast as Western capitalism. The USSR didn't so much collapse as it was shut down by decree bc the leaders looked at the numbers and decided to give up.

Maybe the hypothetical bossless corp will be accidentally created by capitalism as more and more management positions are eliminated to save money.

Hyperreality is a bogus concept altogether, inasmuch as it's supposed to be something new in human history that only happens because of computers. Prehistoric/ancient humans also had fashion trends and myths and symbols and deep context

How is the Trump or Obama article not neutral? You can literally correct them yourself if there is anything untrue or biased.

Some racists built a village and it's doing well, therefore centuries of colonialism across continents was good? Is that sound logic?

So if Scientologists or some other cult built a potemkin village in Wyoming and pumped it with investment, and the town's balance sheets looked better than surrounding communities that didn't get their investment, you'd endorse the cult ideology too? Or at least denounce its critics?