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I’m going to sound like a broken record, but F# is in the ML family and has wonderful tooling and the deployment story is getting dramatically better recently (it’s a little behind C# in its true native AoT compilation support, but it’s coming)

yeah I’d say usage has been steady, maybe with a slight uptick in interest it feels like.

It’s a great platform, in some ways it’s like a secret weapon…

I joke that F# is kinda “easy-button Rust” lol

The upgrade process from 5 to 6 to 7 has been a total breeze, and I’expect things to continue in that matter.

There was a massive amount of churn between the introduction of .NET Core and Core 3, then 3 to 5 was quite a bit less so, and since then it’s been a non-issue. Pretty much just flip a version flag and get new features.

C# ended up with `when` for guards as well, a couple years ago :)

Somehow I’ve started to become one of the older people in the room at work, I don’t know how that happened so suddenly :p

GCP puts automatic analysis recommendations in the UI right next to the resources in the table of VM/etc names, and IMO the recommendations (for both upsizing and downsizing) are dramatically more accurate than what AWS gives you

That’s called F# :D

I’ve been working primarily in .NET the last five years, and have been transitioning to Rust professionally the last few years.

For some reason, people act like being a C# or Java dev means that you’re an idiot. If you’re skilled enough to be writing quality high-performance code in those languages, learning Rust is not a huge barrier…

That’s already happening with .NET, yeah

FWIW the features that GCP exposes for this is way better/easier than AWS's equivalent. So much better

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A previous employer used it, and it was dramatically better than any other system that I’ve used. It’s one of those rare providers that I’m happy to promote, and even more remarkable since it’s in a space that is traditionally awful.

That’s basically F#. It’s great.

I call it WET, “Write Everything Twice”. It’s catchy enough that people remember/follow it, esp with the antonym making it memorable :)

The problem that I’ve seen a bunch of times with the similar lazy-autoload approach in .NET Entity Framework is that someone accidentally/naively serializes one of the EF objects rather than projecting it to a POCO first, and then Prod blows up when the serializer dutifully follows all the relationships in a complex nested object and ends up pulling a massive amount of data from the DB and then tries to log/send 1GB objects at N requests per second. Oops

Thanks yeah, I was just meaning for the ergonomics aspect :) Cheers

I just wish that Rust’s enum Variants were types… maybe someday! :)

In a lot of ways, Paket is significantly better than NuGet, if you ever want to try something new :) It uses a lockfile approach like Cargo, has better dependency resolution, etc https://fsprojects.github.io/Paket/index.html

unfortunately LINQ-to-objects doesn't have the greatest reputation for generating great code/perf, due to a number of factors (largely due to historical impl/interface decisions, from what I understand)

Have you tried opening up a feature suggestion? The maintainers are very receptive/helpful from my experiences.

I bet that someone like Ned Gulley might be interested in writing a MC blog entry on that subject! He’s super nice/approachable, and can be emailed at his contact info on his profile*

The original generation of MATLAB creators and developers like Cleve tended to come from an academic UNIX/mainframe/HPC type background, and so they were big CL users and lived in vim/emacs. And that carried over to a lot of the programmers working at The MathWorks to this day. For a lot of engineers I worked with who hack on the “guts” of the products (the language parser/interpreter/JIT, math internals, computational geometry and stats libraries, etc), the only time they’d fire up the IDE was at the pre-release bug bash every six months lol!

In my original post, saying the “majority” of TMW ran this way is probably an exaggeration, but a “sizeable minority” would be true. Maybe Ned could run an internal poll and include those results in the blog post :)

* https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/profile/authors/1409...

Absolutely true re evolution. That's why it would have to probably be crate keywords rather than categories, I'm thinking.

This whole space about encoding library non-technical aspects like intent and status seems like it has a lot of possibilities. I wonder if there's prior art in other language ecosystems?

They are now, but IIRC that was not previously the case.

there’s some stuff out there:

- https://github.com/rqlite/rqlite - https://github.com/chiselstrike/chiselstore - https://dqlite.io/

I’m sure there’s more, those are just the ones I remember.

In a similar vein, MATLAB has:

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