IMHO, the most insightful comment on that article came from Arianity at September 17, 2025 at 12:34 pm:
>> This is exactly backwards from how the actual “marketplace of ideas” is supposed to work.
> Fundamentally, it’s not actually a marketplace, and the analogy starts to break down. One of my crank takes for awhile has been we should retire the term. It gives people a false sense of the inevitability of good ideas winning out.
>> The format actively discourages the kind of thoughtful, nuanced discussion that might actually change minds—the kind actually designed for persuasion
> I think you’re underselling this, a bit. Kirk wasn’t in the business (just) for money. It’s because those viral clips can persuade people. There’s a lot of people you can win over with zingers. Spectacle is persuasion. It shouldn’t be, but it is effective.
>> Klein is inadvertently endorsing a grift
> I don’t think it’s inadvertent, he’s smart enough to know better. In the circles he cares about, it’s better to be seen as “open minded” and “bipartisan” than accurate, even if it means inventing a legitimate counterparty that doesn’t exist. it’s toxic, and it’s precisely the tic Kirk exploited.