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estraschnovon SHOW HN: Visual framework to build Todo MVC

Not editing the code per se (we don't generate code behind the scene), but we're going to expose an API so that people can build their own elements/actions or add their own APIs. That would basically make Bubble quite limitless (and people will be able to share these plugins)

estraschnovon SHOW HN: Visual framework to build Todo MVC

Thanks :)

estraschnovon You shouldn't have to learn how to code

I dont know... We're pretty close to WYSIWG, as you can read workflows. It's just the beginning, but we have something that 's def more readable than code

And for the new interfaces, there will prob be some coding required, but let's build tools so that we can reuse them, without code

estraschnovon You shouldn't have to learn how to code

I used that example as it was easy, but I could also have said: "we should be able to say: when the user is logged in and clicks on submit, then create a new apartment" (you'll have recognized airbnb...) My point being it could be much more complicated than turning button to red.

Most people try to solve the issue with AI. I think it's one of the reasons why we haven't solved that problem (making programming more approachable) yet. I'd argue the first step is to make that it's readable in plain english. If we have this, then we can start thinking about AI. Why don't you have a look at Bubble (bubble.is). That's our approach

estraschnovon The Happy Demise of the 10X Engineer

10X engineers won't disappear, but they will do other things, and that's great! http://make.bubble.is/post/93505282266/conversion-10x-engine...

estraschnovon Code is going to disappear

When I said code will disappear, I mean people won't use it as much as they do today. Code will still be there, assembly language is still there for instance. I agree with that point.

I'm just saying that at some point, more people will be creating software, and for most of them, they won't use code, but something more visual. Similarly, today, most people don't use assembly language any more.

In other words (back to what we do at Bubble), we're trying to make of JS/Python/Ruby what assembly language is today.

estraschnovon Code is going to disappear

Yeah Bret has some very interesting points. I don't think he's shipping stuff anymore, that's kinda sad...

I agree with your point about frameworks, Bubble is a framework in some ways. However, my point was that at some point, creating software will not be done via typing code, but more through a more pleasant input/user experience (independently of the framework, which will of course evolve).