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ericrwolfe··on Did Strava copy its mobile route builder from another app?
If you click through to the Twitter thread, there is a very active discussion and there still seems to be a lot of disagreement within the OpenStreetMap community on the topic of attribution, particularly on mobile.

Footpath uses the Mapbox SDK under the hood, and I was following Mapbox's documentation on attribution when I integrated the SDK.

I'm following the conversation, and plan to update the attribution once some consensus arises from the discussion.

ericrwolfe··on Did Strava copy its mobile route builder from another app?
Yes! An Android version will be coming later this year.
ericrwolfe··on Did Strava copy its mobile route builder from another app?
The end goal of the apps are very similar, though Footpath places a greater emphasis on the route building + editing UI, as well as what you can do with map layers.

One aspect of EasyRoute that is pretty awesome is its support for exporting turn instructions to Wahoo + Garmin GPS devices via FIT files (the developer works for Wahoo by day), while Footpath only supports exporting the route data to GPX files right now.

Hope that helps.

ericrwolfe··on Did Strava copy its mobile route builder from another app?
Full disclosure: Footpath does currently collect an analytics event when a screenshot gesture is invoked (absolutely no screenshot data) to decide whether to present a share prompt, and it had the unintended side effect of revealing suspicious account activity. I've already updated the code to remove the event in the next release.

I'm happy to answer any questions about privacy and the data Footpath collects: https://footpathapp.com/privacy

ericrwolfe··on Did Strava copy its mobile route builder from another app?
Thanks! I really appreciate the support.
ericrwolfe··on Did Strava copy its mobile route builder from another app?
One of Strava's largest competitors actually reached out a few years ago interested in licensing Footpath's tech, but we decided not to move forward on the deal for various reasons.

I'm not so worried about any of the above putting Footpath out of business. Footpath goes after a deep niche in a way that competitors are unlikely to imitate.

ericrwolfe··on Did Strava copy its mobile route builder from another app?
Yeah, while Strava copied Footpath's flashy demo, they kind of missed the point of how people actually plan routes.

Most Footpath users have specific routes in mind and prefer zooming + panning to draw their route in multiple, shorter segments. Footpath has some editing tools that improve upon the hold & drag UI you'd normally find on the web.

ericrwolfe··on Did Strava copy its mobile route builder from another app?
Creator of Footpath here. I didn't know this was possible either until I looked up the suspicious IP from the logs: https://www.ip2location.com/demo/12.131.20.242
ericrwolfe··on Did Strava copy its mobile route builder from another app?
Creator of Footpath (http://footpathapp.com) here.

The main point I wanted to reiterate in all of this is not so much that Strava copied Footpath. The issue as I see it is that Strava is being misleading in saying they came up with an idea themselves and can innovate quickly, when in fact the data shows otherwise.

> [Strava] came up with the idea for the mobile version in December, during one of the Strava Jam innovation retreats held each quarter. Company officials loved the idea and fast-tracked the project; Route Builder For Mobile rocketed from concept to public beta test in only two months. - Bicycling.com

> Still, I think this is the best new feature we’ve seen from Strava in years. Admittedly, it’s about the only new non-security/rebranding feature we’ve seen from Strava in years – so the bar is kinda low. If comments on past posts are any indication – people are waiting for not just one new Strava feature, but a dozen of these. Hopefully this being merely February, we’ll see many more of these types of creative and useful features added to the platform over the course of 2019. - DCRainmaker.com