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Generally speaking, I like to use fallacies for myself, just to be aware about certain pitfalls. Not so much about discrediting others, but rather not fall into one myself.
If I realize other people are using fallacies to support their argument, it helps me to build an argument against it. Just don't use it naively: "you're wrong because of fallacy number 42". Using it like this is a bad habit, because of the wast number of fallacies, you can probably kill any discussion.
First, your quote is not from a post I answered.
Second, it's interesting to have a link to Jung's material. But stating "something is true, since Jung discusses it at length" is just a very bad argument. Why? Because duedl0r said so.
Third, actually, I share your opinion about the quote and all....but the way you wrote your post is not ok for me
Your argument started with "it's easier to get laid, if I'm a jerk". And now your argument is "it pays to be a jerk in harsh environments". First of all, I hope women aren't included in your harsh environment. Second, you're right. Absolute commitments without exceptions is rarely good advice. There are always exceptions. My criticism is about finding a balance of being a jerk. There is no balance to be attained. There might be exceptions, but not something to balance for.
I'm aware that I feel very strongly about it. That's why I couldn't hold myself back from writing a comment. For me this is very important, because I get the feeling, that humanity is drifting towards dishonesty. It's even expected to be lied at. For example, my co-workers lie to our customers if we missed something or implemented a bug in our software. It's not an option anymore to say to them straight, that we made an error! How stupid is that? The customers wants to be lied at! On the other hand, if they did something they're not supposed to do with our software, they lie about what they really did. This gets me so angry... Sorry, I'm going to stop now.. :)
If you want to learn from bad people: Do it, but use it for good. For example in identifying people who are bad, or want to take advantage of you/others. But certainly not to get a balance.
And btw, I always hope, people with questionable opinions get screwed by someone with the same questionable view. Let's hope you'll learn your lesson.
how you do think online voting is done? you really think a simple VPN is enough?
oh, and btw.. I send my tax statement online. let's hope the russians don't have a VPN connection to Switzerland :)
Why do I have to search for information?
Why is it, that all those shitty, shiny looking new homepages are the same. NO CONTENT.
Ok, I'm done. Not interested anymore.
For me this process is compareable to education of children. If you let your child drink coke instead of water, it will do so. But since we're good parents, we don't allow that, do we?
Btw, this whole argumentation isn't restricted to media. E.g. clothing companies: they want to make us believe, we want our stuff from Bangladesh, where the mortality is significantly higher in a cloth company than anywhere else?
So you're saying there are groups of people here who want this?
I just refuse to believe that.
In the end I'm not the one who makes a fortune of all this, so I'm not willing to take the responsibility.
How about we were made to like that, because CEOs of X can optimize their profits? But ok, everybody can tell me now that people can make their own choice. In fact, they can't.
IT'S THE TRUTH.
(btw ending a thought with "it's the truth" is yet another incredible stupid thing...oh boy)
tsss...