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Now, allow me to introduce you to the ID verification. Insert your biometric passport to proceed. /j

Don't give them clues, please /s

> Try asking Chinese models about Taiwan independence or Falun Gong or the Dalai Lama or Tiananmen or the Hong Kong national security law or ASIO’s investigations into Chinese interference in Australian politics

It depends "where" you're asking. In most cases (like with DeepSeek or Z.AI models) it will gladly tell you everything (though it can hallucinate sometimes; I guess they try to filter out such data out of the training datasets) if it's not deployed on Chinese servers and you control the system prompt. So, I guess that these guardrails - probably built into the system prompt - are deployed only on China-controlled inference servers, outside of them models are pretty much talkative.

Well, at least that was my experience. Maybe yours is different for some reasons (like temperature settings or something else), I don't know.

> Is seeing people talking about the things they don’t like something that makes you unhappy? Why?

Probably (I'm just assuming) because that person observes negative/cautious/"I don't like this because X and Y and also Z"/etc sentiment too much and feels like people are only quick to notice issues while forgetting about good sides.

It's only an assumption, though.

Not that I'm too sure about how this applies (or whether it applies at all) to other people as well, but for me personally it's easier to recall information about the band if I'm being told the band's name instead of being told "well, they are known for coloured ties". So, there is certainly some kind of effect described in action.

Now, about alphabet: again, I think it's only me, but when I try to recall it backwards, I can't do that easily. I mean, I can recall it backwards, but I need more time to do that. It's harder. I'm not sure if it's because A links to B, B to C, then C to D and not backwards, or maybe just because in school you learn alphabet from A to Z and not from Z to a - so you're kind of trained to recall it A-->Z way - but it's certainly harder for me.

At the end of the day, though, I think that everyone thinks differently. Everyone is having different internal representations for concepts (such as alphabet), so it’s not surprising that this effect may work differently for different people, or not work at all.

> would definitely affect local AI

And not only. Given your example with 300W, it will affect even things like (somewhat advanced) home servers, (mostly) personal self-hosting machines and even just gaming PCs. That would affect way too much, if I understood your thought correctly.

> Android users need to switch to Graphene.

Doesn't GrapheneOS supports only Google Pixel smartphones now? For most of the users, that would mean changing their phones beforehand. And if we're talking about common people (especially not in US), it's not even everyone who can afford that. Moreover, in my opinion, by buying Google phones you're feeding Google, and I, personally, would like to avoid that.

Have you read the next paragraph?

> I suspect there are as-yet undiscovered effects which shape the next generation. Whether that be DNA methylation, gut bacteria passing from mother to child, selection of the 'correct' egg or sperm out of millions, or something new and un-discovered etc.

I can't see where it mentions "creationism".

So... is this literally a... umm, sorry, I'm just genuinely (really, no sarcasm intended) which terminology to use... finetune of DeepSeek V4-Pro or post-trained version of DeepSeek V4-Pro Base? Because I haven't fully dived into the tech report (so I may update my opinion as well as my comment), but this far the architectural solutions seem to be largely similar to DeepSeek ones.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's just the first impression.

EDIT: I take my words back (which happens rarely) - although they do build upon DeepSeek's work, their contribution far exceeds merely post-training the base model in a different way. They did introduce something new to the architecture, though I still can't find the full tech report, with Hugging Face and GitHub links returning 404 right now.

EDIT-2: Now when I think about it, I'm not quite sure if they're going to release in the open the full report with methodology, as well as the model weights, at all.

Well, that makes some sense. My friends tried some bridges as well, but some of them didn't work from the beginning, while others got blocked (probably; the exact reason why they don't work anymore is unknown) later.

Thank you for sharing the reliable information from (well, at least somewhat) official source.

I guess that author mentions it explicitly:

> In dynamic languages like Ruby and Python tests are important for a different reason

> tests are important

> Now I can generate that same monstrosity on my own.

For what? Why would you need to?

> I've created a 1.1m+ loc and growing trading platform that automates options trades based on live ML edges from research papers.

Sounds like a lot of "if/else" /j

> If there's one thing we can be sure about it's that people starving in Africa are not starving because an American got themselves a new lawn mower.

Exactly what I think, personally.

Now that (abandoning the efforts to block Tor so now it mostly works) sounds like some good news to me! Can you please share your settings or what exactly you use that works for you? Perhaps they will help my friends, too, because previously, they relied on Tor to circumvent the "network blockade", but it just stopped working for them at some point. And yes, they tried to play with settings as well but it didn't really help.

By the way, the level of ban enforcement can also vary from region to region regardless of ISPs (at least that's what I heard from some people), but anyway...

> But it's important to remember that avoiding restrictions gets harder and harder every year.

Yes, that's right. Now the only reliable protocols to communicate with my friends in Russia seem to be e-mail ones like SMTP, because everything else constantly gets interrupted if not blocked completely. The only thing we can hope for here is that sooner or later, that hell will finally end; we just need to do what we do.

> I just don't understand why some other people in such discussions still think that its only about children and weigh pro and cons when they have an actual example of all these things being implemented.

Maybe I'm being kind of rude, but to me that seems just like... for the lack of better words, it seems like they're in denial. In a psychological sense, I mean.

I know all of that. I'm a native Russian speaker and I have quite a lot of Russian friends, I'm pretty well aware of the situation. Nevertheless, despite all the government’s efforts and the enormous amount of money invested in this, there are still - at least for now - ways to bypass the blocks even there. I suspect that as long as they don’t physically cut the cables, there will always be ways to circumvent censorship. And yes, I’m not talking about carrier pigeons :)

So I hope that in the UK and other European countries, by drawing on Russia’s existing experience, people will be able to adapt to these restrictions before they become too severe. Of course, the government could also adopt Russia’s approach right away, but that’s unlikely, as it would provoke far too much resistance from citizens - they aren’t used to that level of restriction. If Europe does indeed continue moving in this direction, everything will happen gradually, just as it did in Russia; no one will roast a frog with a flamethrower - they’ll cook it according to the classic recipe, so to speak.

Hmm... That's interesting. Maybe that depends on ISP, because my friends have told me they can't use Tor because they can't even bootstrap, even if they're using bridges.

Then I should assume that your "inference" ignores common sense, because nowhere in my comments was I praising some governments, either Russian or European, for their action. I merely pointed out that now, probably, some people from Europe may try to apply Russian experience at circumventing censorship, bans and "network blockades". That's a good thing in the context of this whole situation, because you don't have to figure everything out on your own, from the ground up - you already have some practical examples, researches, and, what's more important - allies. Maybe I'm dramatizing a bit here, but the way was already paved out - you just have to follow the path.

Now could you, please, show to me where exactly was I saying something positive about governments?

From my personal point of view and from my own experience, you have to look for positives if it's possible. The fact that you're still alive is already a positive, even if you're underground taking cover from bombshells and thinking that you may die tomorrow. If you're not looking for positive, you will loose your will to live and, eventually, you will die. Maybe that's making me look too optimistic, but for me that's literally the matter of survival. Sorry if my position was not clear from the beginning.

> You seriously think the government has a clear, honest reasons, as stated?

What made you think that I think so?

> United States radically supports free speech

Sounds like some kind of utopia to me, given the current circumstances /s

I'm not so sure, but aren't some attempts to regulate the cryptocurrencies (therefore completely obliterating their initial goal to be government-independent) already have been made? Maybe I'm wrong though, because I don't really remember... Probably I have to look it up.

Anyway, how would they obtain the (let's say) Bitcoin to pay for VPS?

I'm NOT supporting the OP, but I thought that maybe what's he's saying is somewhat similar to the following position: according to some basic principles of economy (at least as I know them), all resources are limited. Therefore, by taking up enough resources to "just exist", you may prevent someone else from existing, essentially "killing" them - because there's not enough resources for two of you. Alternatively, if you consider a larger scale - because economic resources in the world are limited, the USA has one of the wealthiest middle classes in the world, while millions of people in Africa are starving to death, and those who don't are suffering from diseases that could easily be cured by advanced US medicine.

But (an important "but"), first, while resources are limited, there may be enough for all of the humanity (probably; at least that's what I think, maybe I'm wrong), so by using some resources to "just exist" you're not killing someone else because they still have some resources to just exist as well - so in terms of individuals this logic may, maybe, apply to billionaires but not to people who "just exist"; and second, it's not all that simple, and while there's some "grain of truth", the real world is a bit more complex.

Which will get blocked and go down, like, in no time. That's literally what happened in Russia - Tor is mostly unusable, you can't even bootstrap properly without some "tricks", so to speak.

And then UK residents are going to discover the "power" of government which will require age verification for renting a VPS or VDS or any other kind of cloud infrastructure, tied directly to your passport/ID, because "many families are desperate for this to happen and I listen particularly to bereaved families that say the longer we delay this, the more children are put at risk".

/j or /s

P.S. by the way, is it possible for them to use Hetzner? Don't they need something like credit card?

> when 70% of the population uses VPNs.

To be honest, unfortunately, I'm not really sure about this one.

Change the protocols, I guess? Move to some kind of self-hosted or community-run infrastructure? Because to block all of that (EDIT: to block that reliably, I mean), you will have to block the entire EU network sector, and we're likely not in "V for Vendetta" or full-blown 1984 scenario for this to be possible.

The only (probably) good thing here is that one can at least try to apply Russian experience at circumventing the censorship, where it's currently way more severe, up to the point when entire companies have their workflows disrupted because remote workers can't connect through the VPN (which is blocked). Maybe that will help.

As far as I'm aware, it's not true for models like DeepSeek or other Chinese open-weight models (at least those that I have seen); their reasoning traces are fully composed from some human language, be it English, Chinese or another one; by the way, most of them can adapt their reasoning based on user language, for example, if user speaks English the reasoning more likely will be in English.

I think that for DeepSeek problem (thinking and replying in Chinese) everything is kinda simpler: in their official chat, they're probably using some kind of system prompt which is (probably) written in Chinese, so that's why model may prefer Chinese in it's output.

> what is the obvious thing I'm supposed to be getting from your ellipses?

Well, I'm unsure if it's a correct form of expression in English, but in my native language ellipses can often serve to express speaker/writer feeling of uncertainty about something or some kind of sadness/apathy/similar towards the situation being discussed. It's not about some "obvious thing you should get", sorry for misunderstanding.

> or are you just referring to hosted providers of those AI models?

Yes I am. I was not talking about BYD or Xiaomi; I think I focused too much on AI because that's the main topic in discussion here. That was my mistake and I apologize for that.