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Before Plague of Justinian, original Russia (Русся) lived in the town of Russia. After the start of plague, they abandoned their town and spread over large territory, from Caspian Sea to Spain, so, after 541, original Russians can be traced back to a lot of places.
> Also false. Existing historical and linguistic evidence do not support it
Typical Russian style of discussion. Here is the evidence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_Le_Vasseur_de_Beaupl...
> ВКРАИНА, рж. Див. Украйна. XVI. Ино тими рази на вкраинахь оть татар многим таковая ся пригода и шкода пригожаєть Арх. ЮЗР. VIII, IV, 172 (1501). – (an approximate translation) «on those occasions at fringes (borderlands / edges – «вкраинахь») will be becoming useful and [шкода] will become useful (?)». The context is incomplete, therefore it is difficult to make sense out of it. The reference dates back to 1501.
I'm the native speaker. You are just lying there. It's clearly written, "Vkraine, See Ukraine. ...".
Also, your attempts to convince that native speakers don't know the meaning of the word are pathetic.
Ukraine is the mix of Slavs and historic Russians (русичи) (from the town of Russia, now Old Russa, on Russia river, now Porussia river). "Russians" from Russian Federations are members of Russian orthodox church or citizens of Russian Federation. There was a split between "Polish" (Catholics) and "Russian" (Eastern Orthodox) members in Ukraine a few centuries ago.
> They also share a common political heritage with the name of the country meaning borderland (of Russia).
Nope. Ukraine is the original Russia, now called Kievan Rus by RF. "Ukraine" share same word root with such words as "ukryttia" (shelter), "ukriplennia" (reinforced structure). Modern equivalent world for "ukraine" is "ukripraion" (reinforced area of defense). Poland built multiple areas of defense ("ukraines") on their eastern border, so the whole area got name "Ukraine".
> In fact Ukraine was no more an independent country than Wales until about 30 years ago.
Bohdan Khmelnytskyi was Hetman of Ukraine since 1654, almost century before Russian Empire was created in 1721.
FYI, Ukraine continues to pay money to victims of Russian attacks. This makes Ukraine responsible for Russian attacks in your eyes, right?
Yeah, it's the classic example of Russian propaganda machine: Russia blamed somebody else for their own error, then no evidence found for that blame, but it is too late to change opinion of peoples.
Artillery killed several Ukrainian civilians in Russia-occupied Donetsk because Russia occupied Donetsk.
20 years passed - no evidence found. Moreover, now we know the name of Russian officer of air defense who ordered to shut the plane, we know that he did that because transponder was turned off on the plane, because the plane was on mission to gather intel about air defense in EU, but you still insist on replaying Russian propaganda?
Officially accepted number by Russian Federation is 7 million[1], but those are adults only. 23 million children are not counted.
1: https://web.archive.org/web/20161210154419/http://duma.consu...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_presence_in_T...
It is.