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Yes thats a good way of putting it
What have we got now? When I look up the UKs biggest tech companies now its people like Aveva and Sage who make dull enterprisey software. Is there anyone else?
edit: I guess we might still have some big game studios?
edit: I'll also take websites, has the UK got any big website companies? Seems like our biggest are Rightmove and Autotrader
.... And a Flarhgunnstow?
Original publisher in the 80s was 'Superior Software', I'd be interested to know if this is the same people 40 years later
edit: yes its the same people!
edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxzv1o1ngRw
full screen scroll on a 6502-powered BBC Model B
The model is using a program called NetLogo
https://github.com/NetLogo/NetLogo
https://ccl.northwestern.edu/netlogo/index.shtml
Source code for the model used in this paper
https://figshare.com/articles/software/Netlogo_code_supporti...
Seems like a fun program, you set up 'turtles' and give them attributes and rules and then watch them roam around
I thought this was interesting:
;adding individual noise into the speeds of individuals, to avoid computational problems caused by all individuals being on top of each other in a cell
ask turtles [
set individual-speed 0.95 + random-float 0.05
]
Like, seems like a good idea to add the random speed but why does having all the turtles in one cell cause such a problem?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_F9jxsfGCw
brutally hilarious
Unless you're into panpsychism - which I can't discount because although its a ridiculous explanation of consciousness, all the other possible explanations are equally ridiculous
I suppose for what I'm calling processing there needs to be some order. Things that do processing (our cells, processors, etc) use energy to keep some order in the system (keep lower entropy than their surroundings by using energy from those surroundings). Whereas the river is just at maximum disorder relative to its surroundings the whole time.
You could make a water computer where water flows through pipes and collects in cups and then the weight of the cups implements AND gates and OR gates and so on. But in that case the order is provided by the pipework and the energy input is whatever gets the water to the top of the system (and maintains the pipework from being worn away over time)
I mean I'm not saying it conscious or anything. I'm just saying it has agency, which is to say "it is a thing that does things"
Chalmers paper is behind a paywall but I dont see how your point makes any sense. A rock is not processing anything, an insect or a person or a calculator is. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
The states that Putnam argues are happening inside the rock dont mean anything unless some action results from them. You'll notice I mentioned 'actions as a result of processing' above.
but you can build a computer in game of life that has memory and can base its actions on prcoessing and past input
If something acts only due to external forces - a rock rolling down a hill, or a river flowing around some rocks, we say it doesn't have agency.
If something partially acts based on processing/decision making processes running inside its own boundary - like us, or a roomba, we say it has agency.
So it comes down to processing and actions as a result of processing. Doesn't matter whether its deterministic or not.
* = (probably; ultimately it doesnt matter much whether its deterministic or partially random, either way theres no way of finding out the future other than waiting for it to arrive, due to sensitive dependence on initial conditions)
https://ncea.education.govt.nz/mana-orite-mo-te-matauranga-m...
https://ncea.education.govt.nz/explaining-new-ncea-materials
NCEA is New Zealands main secondary school qualification.
First link talks about 'equal status' of Māori knowledge, but it talks about that in context of pathways to passing the NCEA, i.e. my reading of it is, its like a different curriculum for getting the qualification. That isn't the same as saying 'Māori knowledge has equal status with western science full stop'. It seems to be more like 'theres a path to this qualification that is based more on Māori knowledge'. Also a lot of it is about values rather than knowledge. But I've only skimmed it, thats just the impression I got.